people always try to explain to me that final fantasy is not an RPG seriously if it isnt then what is it??? theyre all a bunch of fu*k tards it just pisses me off, i was thinking if anyone here has anythoughs on this matter

Well.... there's two ways to define an RPG nowadays. You got Console Japanese style RPGs and then you have Computer American style RPGs.

Console Japanese style RPGs like Final Fantasy and Grandia, etc, they mostly emphasize on story. But in doing so, they sacrifice freedom in character growth (Leveling and stuff). It mostly consists of menus and menus rather than free open battles.

Computer American style RPGs like Diablo, MMORPGs, and Neverwinter Nights, are all about character development through stats and numbers rather than having a full fledge story. This gives the player the highest amount of freedom to their character but at the same time, it's so open that there is no story about your character specficially. Instead, you have to make it up on your own.

The state of RPGs now though, there is a blur between the lines of Computer and Console style. While it can be a good thing, there are those who rather just have one and not the other.

...honestly, who cares?

I dunno... those who hate PC styled games and those who hate Console style games? Simply put, Final Fantasy is going to have some radical changes to the point where.... it'll never EVER be the same.

Didn't this already happen, HanhKnight? Final Fantasy has been undergoind changes ever since its birth, and so has the genre itself.

I favour Japanese RPGs, all in all. There is a difference between Western and Japanese style RPGs, a big one I think. So to answer your question, ziggypop, I care... Because when I say "I like RPGs," the statement is ambiguous. Like HanhKnight described, there are different kinds of RPGs, different definitions, maybe, and Final Fantasy does not fit in many. :)

FFXII has a bit of American RPG influence in it from what I've seen. It's not a bad thing at all BUT if you look at FFXI (which is pretty much a given since it's a MMORPG) and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, that line has already shown a blurrness between JPN and US style.

FF is an RPG, it's not Diablo, it's Neverwinter Nights, it's not Morrowind... but they are RPGs too... but of a different kind.