Ok, you ask any Final Fantasy fan, and most of them will tell you that either Kefka or Sephiroth is their favorite villian. But why not determine who is the best right here?


I pick Kefka, pretty much because he is too crazy to be bargained with, his evil laugh that pisses me off, and he will stop at nothing to destroy the world. Kefka actually shows passion in his anger and hate for the world.

Sephiroth is a great villian and all, but I don't consider him to be better than Kefka. For instance, he kills Aeris from behind, flys away when danger is near (Cloud), and always manipulates Cloud to do his dirty work. If you ask me, that sounds kind of cowardish.

Kefka wouldn't kill Aeris from behind. He would do it so that she could see him deliver the finishing blow. Then, knowing that her death is not good enough, he would stand over the body and laugh *grr*, and then slice her head off. And he wouldn't run away from the scene of the crime either.

Kefka beats Sephiroth!

Didn't Kefka run away from your party during one battle you had with him? That was amusing... Kind of.

Yeah, Kefka's more evil than Sephiroth. Whereas Sephy was fairly one dimensional in his character (I must become God), Kefka was a complex individual who was devious and at the same time very intelligent in what he did. He used his "allies" to get him into position and then disposed of them once he was done. He also came very close to succeeding in his plan.

I Think it will be Sephiroth(Cause when he saw his mother!!!!)the evel in side him had come out (I'd rather call it revenge).

Yeah, Sephiroth may have let his evil come out when he saw his mother, but Kefka was pretty much evil throughout the entire game!

Originally posted by Smokey
Kefka wouldn't kill Aeris from behind. He would do it so that she could see him deliver the finishing blow.


Ummmm...didn't Kefka poison Doma's water supply? If thats not cowardice, then I don't know what is.


Anyway I prefer Sephiroth, mainly because he had many sides to his personality, he seemed quite compassionate at some points. Also his weapon, is easily one of the finest swords in the Final Fantasy series.

In terms of pure crazyness, it's definitely Kefka. Kefka has been evil and crazy from A to Z.

But in terms of coolness, it's Sephiroth. Sephiroth was looking better and seemed more powerful, but he wasn't as mad-looking as Kefka.


Those two are my favorite villains of the series, though.

Well, when you are looking at an evil villian, you really don't expect him/her to be compassionate at certain points in the game.

Yes, Kefka did poison Doma's water supply, and yes that is cowardly, but that is also a good strategy to take out his enemies without them even knowing anything about it.

Originally posted by Smokey
Well, when you are looking at an evil villian, you really don't expect him/her to be compassionate at certain points in the game.

Yes, Kefka did poison Doma's water supply, and yes that is cowardly, but that is also a good strategy to take out his enemies without them even knowing anything about it.

Exactly. Think about it, storm in and lose a lot of troupes, or kill off as many as possible and THEN storm in? Hitler bombed cities before he ever tried to enter them in order to gain an upper hand while fighting in streets he and his army didn't know; it is basically the same thing.

Kefka is by far the evilest and most maniacal of the two, and generally harder to beat. Then again there seems to be a trend� More recent the FF the less challenging it is.

Yes, you are right RabidMonkey, and that is why FF games should start bringing back villians that are similar to Kefka.

Sephiroth all the way baby

Kefka is insane and was also a much tougher boss. I definitely think Kefka is better.

Nah, I am going for an independent vote. I choose Kuja. He's so cool in such a feminie way *winks*

Originally posted by Amaroth
Nah, I am going for an independent vote. I choose Kuja. He's so cool in such a feminie way *winks*

Uh ok...

But who between Kefka and Sephiroth

Sephiroth! Kefka Smells.

Originally posted by Amaroth
Nah, I am going for an independent vote. I choose Kuja. He's so cool in such a feminie way *winks*

I totally agree with you, Kuja was ace, i loved him and it was so cool when he went in to trance, could have made him a bit harder though!

Kefka owns all

Kthx ;O

Sephiroth

Kefka.


Sephiroth is for emo people

Originally posted by Rinoa_Yuna
Sephiroth

Rinoa_Yuna's like me, Sephiroth all the way! Kefka's a jerk and didn't have a reason for killing people. Sephiroth was more on the right track because Sephiroth really did it for another race, while Kefka just stupidly thought, "Oh people die anyway, so why not kill them now!", Smart, real smart *being sarcastic* that's Kefka's problem, he doesn't know it's better to live life and enjoy it rather than to live in a world of nothingness where it's boring! Life's too good to destroy! Sephiroth only killed for another life, which was the Cetra, Sephiroth only wanted to avenge them and Sephiroth just misunderstood how to do it. So Sephiroth would win!

Kefka
- Played mind games with Terra.
- Tried to burn down Figoro Castle.
- Poisoned the people of Doma, (and laughed about how he loved to hear people crying out in pain).
- Punched Shiva in the face and kicked Ifrit in the nuts.
- Turned the rebel espers into Magicite and told them that they might see a few "familiar faces" in his collection.
- Killed General Leo, (while chanting "HATE HATE HATE").
- Killed his own troops before leaving Thasama.
- Killed Gestahl, (a small "good" deed, but done out of disgust).
- Kicked Gestahl's corpse off of the floating continent.
- Drained the Gods of their power.
- Practically destroyed the entire world and rebuilt it in his own image.
- Nuked quite a few cities with the "Light of Judgement", simply because he had heard reports that someone in town didn't like him.
- Had a cult devoted to his worship.
- Used "Fallen Angel", (a spell that put your entire party to 1 HP)
- Used "Flare Star", (massive non-elemental damage to the whole party).
And last, but not least:
- He ripped his own head off and held it in his hand laughing during the final battle.

Sephiroth
- Went loopy and burned down Nibelheim.
- Killed a lot of Shinra employees.
- Killed President Shinra, (this was his "good" deed).
- Killed some some sailors and Shinra marines.
- Goofed around at Gold Saucer.
- Killed Tseng, (who in my opinion wasn't really a "bad guy").
- Killed Aeris
- Killed the Sephiroth Clones of Nibelheim
- Summoned the Meteor
- Took a nap until the end of the game.
- Grew an awesome looking wing and halo, (but not a match for a double set of angel wings).
- Used "Supernova", (very pretty, but not all that damaging).
- Used "Shadow Flare", (medium-high damage to a single character).
- Got his ass kicked with Omnislash,

There you have it. Conclusive proof that Kefka owns Sephiroth..

Well done Mandi lol

I was gonna say the Kefka actually succeeded in destroying the world. So you cannot argue with that.

No, not for me. Good always wins over evil. Sephiroth was more good than Kefka, so therefore, Sephiroth owns Kefka! Kefka was a jerk and deserved to die more than Sephiroth. Evil does not own good.

Sephiroth, not cuz I have a 'thing' for him.

He's got the better sword. ;D

Originally posted by Riana
Sephiroth, not cuz I have a 'thing' for him.

He's got the better sword. ;D

More like bigger sword ;)

Originally posted by Purrr


More like bigger sword ;)

*gasps*

Only I'm supposed to know that!!!!

Well I apologise my dagger isn't enough for you :(

Originally posted by Purrr
Well I apologise my dagger isn't enough for you :(

Please don't say that, you're making me cry now. ;_;

It's MORE than enough for me. ;)

Originally posted by Riana


Please don't say that, you're making me cry now. ;_;

It's MORE than enough for me. ;)

Yay we resolved our first marriage problem lol.

Phew, I'm beat.

:D

Originally posted by TifaGirl
No, not for me. Good always wins over evil. Sephiroth was more good than Kefka, so therefore, Sephiroth owns Kefka! Kefka was a jerk and deserved to die more than Sephiroth. Evil does not own good.

The debate is over who was the better villain. Not over who was "more good".

Therefore, Kefka does, in fact, pwn Sephiroth. Thank you for your time.

Sure! All it is is a matter of opinion anyway.

I never played 6, so I guess Sephiroth is the better villan.

You tell'em Girlfriend! Damn, why do all the moderators like Kefka better!

ok enuf with the wiener jokes

tifagirl: No, not for me. Good always wins over evil. Sephiroth was more good than Kefka, so therefore, Sephiroth owns Kefka! Kefka was a jerk and deserved to die more than Sephiroth. Evil does not own good.

dude the whole point of a bad guy is to be bad
and the fact that kefka is wierder thus cool

Originally posted by ninjapunk87
<B> ok enuf with the wiener jokes </B>

*raises eyebrow once, then twice*



<B> Good always wins over evil. Sephiroth was more good than Kefka, so therefore, Sephiroth owns Kefka! Kefka was a jerk and deserved to die more than Sephiroth. Evil does not own good. </B>

Yeah, good usually does conquer evil. But, the point of a villian is to be bad, not good. Thus, Kefka would be the greatest Final Fantasy villian.

Originally posted by ninjapunk87
ok enuf with the wiener jokes

tifagirl: No, not for me. Good always wins over evil. Sephiroth was more good than Kefka, so therefore, Sephiroth owns Kefka! Kefka was a jerk and deserved to die more than Sephiroth. Evil does not own good.

dude the whole point of a bad guy is to be bad
and the fact that kefka is wierder thus cool

Finally someone agrees with me here! Evil never wins against good. I could understand the point of this thread; which villian was better at being evil. I'm just saying, I love Sephiroth, and I hate Kefka. That's my point.

Originally posted by Smokey

Yeah, good usually does conquer evil. But, the point of a villian is to be bad, not good. Thus, Kefka would be the greatest Final Fantasy villian.

Smokey holds a very valid point, if villians were good then there would be no point in having one, they might as well be your party member. So therefore because all of you said that Kekfa was more evil than Sephiroth that basically means that you thought Kefka was a better villian.

hahaha a good villian... how amusing

Originally posted by 1_W1nged_Angel


Smokey holds a very valid point, if villians were good then there would be no point in having one, they might as well be your party member. So therefore because all of you said that Kekfa was more evil than Sephiroth that basically means that you thought Kefka was a better villian.

hahaha a good villian... how amusing

That's why I hate Kefka. And what happens to bad villians and bad people? They get punished. DEATH TO KEFKA!!

That's why I hate Kefka. And what happens to bad villians and bad people? They get punished. DEATH TO KEFKA!!

Sephiroth got punished to for that matter. But in my opinion Kefka remains as one of the est villians to date. Sephiroth just seems to be losing his toouch these days *sigh*

I see a noticable difference between the two:

Kefka was bent on destroying the world and everyone in it, even if it meant taking his own life.

Sephiroth only wanted to become one with the planet, so that he could become even more powerful.

So, I am saying, that Kefka has always had that need to kill, and he always had incredible power. Sephiroth needed help in gaining more power.

<B>*SPOILERS*</B>

Besides, Sephiroth was killed by one jab through the stomach, while Kefka needed to be taken down thrice!

On that basis, Kefka is the better villian.

why is there even a debate... we all know Kefka is better

Is that true...?





Yes it is

Kefka is better at being a villian, but Sephiroth is cuter!

yeh, i thought that was the point of the thread, to see wh is the better villian????

I guess so. It said Sephiroth vs. Kefka so I just wanted to say I like Sephiroth better, but I guess it's not to see which one you like better.

Originally posted by TifaGirl
<B> It said Sephiroth vs. Kefka</B>

Ha, maybe you should check the title of the thread Tifa.:-*



<B>I guess it's not to see which one you like better. </B>

Yes, this thread is about which is the better Final Fantasy villian.

So does that mean that is been proven that Kefka was the better villian?

I guess so. I think that's why I'm supposed to hate him.

yup, thats why you are supposed to hate him.

Okay! My debate here is over then!

hard decision come bak later