Wattson
05-12-2004, 03:09 AM
Why are they so popular? I mean, probably about 40% of the people I talk to outside of the game play as Elvaan, including here, probably more like 50 or 60%...
That'd be a fine number, if there were only two races. That'd be a fine number, if Elvaan were exceptionally good. That'd be a fine number if all the other races were exceptionally bad.
Yet, none of that is true.
Elvaan's strong points are STR, MND, and CHR, the highest out there in these three stats. Yet, they have the second worst mana pool out there. Which, is quite bad and makes their MND a moot point. Their CHR... well, how many Elvaan BRDs or BSTs have you seen running around?
I can't name one.
Which leaves us with STR and second highest HP. And, admittedly STR is good, but their crappy AGI makes any hope of being an accurate RNG until much later levels pretty slim. Which makes WAR, MNK, DRG, DRK, PLD, BST (though few choose to play as this, as far as I can tell), and SAM really the only "highly usable" Elvaan jobs. Some of these jobs, other races are much better at...which is what brings us to direct comparison ^^;
Warrior
Tarutaru WARs are absolutley terrible. Low VIT, low STR, low HP... all the key characteristics of this job. Unless using it as a temporary subjob to level your subjob (ie leveling NIN for a Taru RNG/NIN) it is very difficult to get into the higher-levels as Taru.
Mithra WARs are absolutley fine. As are Humes. There really isn't much difference, but neither is that great. But Mithra and Hume get the thumbs up for being able to play _any_ job well.
Galka... the kings of WAR. Highest VIT, highest HP, and nearly as much STR as an Elvaan, they're simply amazing. As a tanking WAR, they have absolutley no flaws whatsoever. As a damage dealing WAR, er... that's an oxymoron, but...
Elvaan are only better than Galka as a damage dealing WAR, but face it: WAR is not your damage dealing class. They have less HP and VIT than Galka, which are the most crucial stats, which makes them not so good. I'm pretty sure everyone would rather have a Galka than an Elvaan tanking...
Winner = Galka
Monk
Monk... interesting job. Again, with WAR, Taru are slightly better this time around (as their VIT doesn't matter much and their HP is improved), and Hume/Mithra are the same.
Galka or Elvaan... hmm. Elvaan have more STR, but can't take hits as well, and can'tt ake as many hits. But MNK shouldn't be tanking... However, for most of the game, the difference between Galka and Elvaan damage is hardly noticeable, unless you are "lucky" enough to be in a party with a Galka MNK and an Elvaan MNK with equal level, subjob level, exact same equipment, and exact same food usage, and then you might see 1 or 2 more damage from the Elvaan. However, I guess since we're playing purely numbers, Elvaan do barely scratch it out on top...
Winner = Elvaan
Dragoon and Samurai
Taru DRGs... incredibley cute ^^
Hume and Mithra... average some more :x
Galka v Elvaan..... really, see above =\
Winner = Elvaan (x2)
Paladin
Mithra PLD's have nice evasion, decent magic, and decent overall stats. They're quite nice :). Hume's are slightly less good, but still there.
Taru PLD's... frankly, are awesome. Despite the difficulty of getting WAR up to 30, or whatever the case may be, they're capable of casting enough Cures to keep the hate on them and keep themselves alive :D. They work quite well.... not to mention look great in AF..
Elvaan PLD... you'd think they'd be made for this job, right? High STR, and high MND, and pretty high VIT and HP. They have to rely almost entirely on 'voke to keep hate on them, though.
Galkas, on the other hand, may seem like a poorer choice with lower MND and MP. But they take less damage, keep the hate on themselves better, and frankly; Galkas are a tanking class, and no snoddy elves can take that title from them.
Winner = Galka
Dark Knight
Hmm...
Taru DRK does quite well, looks incredibley awesome, and can be like your parties mini-BLM (highest INT) that swings for pretty high damage. Take one home today :)
Hume/Mithra.... same difference.
Elvaan does better in the STR department of this, but Galka beat them in INT. That's right, Galka are smarter than Elvaan. Don't ask me how but they are o_o'. It's a matter of preference between these two...
Winnder = Tarutaru
Beastmaster
Well, frankly, this job was pretty much made for Elvaan. Highest CHR for charming, highest STR for damage dealing, highest MND for sub WHM curing of self. I won't even touch this :P
Winnder = Elvaan
Which leaves us with the fact that, of those jobs listed above that Elvaan are "suited for," only MNK, DRG, SAM and BST are really the "best" for Elvaan... which are all basically the CTRL+A, Make a Sandwhich jobs.
Other Jobs
WHM, BLM, RDM, SMN:
No matter what your MND is, Elvaan, nor what converts hp to mp items you equip, Taru will always have more mp than you (can wear same items) and more mp = more effectiveness and less downtime.
RNG:
Heh.. this is probably a highly-argued over job. Any race is good at this job, because no matter how big your arms are, the damage output is enormous. Tarutaru and Mithra will always be better, though, because they will miss less times in a battle.
Example:
Elvaan RNG does 80 damage a hit, fires 20 times and hits 12: Total Damage: 960
Taru RNG does 70 damage a hit, fires 20 times and hits 15:
Total Damage: 1065
Who's the high and mighty race now? :P
NIN:
All races are equally good as NIN-tank, and besides that, NIN isn't a very superb main job...
BRD:
Bleh.. Elvaan may have a bit more CHR, but Tarus higher MP makes a WHM sub much more viable...
THF:
Besides Galka, any race is an effective THF...
What about roleplaying?
Elvaan may not be the best, but you can choose one because you like the way they act and want to be one and such. But seriously.... these guys are racist assholes (Halver, for example).
And if you ever see a guy Elvaan fight with a sword and a shield, he seems to stick his bottom out towards where his shield-hand is resting on his hip, and swings lazily... it looks... very very feminine. Not that femininity is bad, but seriously, with all their racist talk they should be able to stand up straight.
Their necks are just weird too :P
Summary, and Final Question:
Given all these facts and opinions of mine, I come to wonder....
Why would anyone want to be an Elvaan? Why are they so popular with NA players? And why are there few JP Elvaan? O.o
someone tell me please ; ;
That'd be a fine number, if there were only two races. That'd be a fine number, if Elvaan were exceptionally good. That'd be a fine number if all the other races were exceptionally bad.
Yet, none of that is true.
Elvaan's strong points are STR, MND, and CHR, the highest out there in these three stats. Yet, they have the second worst mana pool out there. Which, is quite bad and makes their MND a moot point. Their CHR... well, how many Elvaan BRDs or BSTs have you seen running around?
I can't name one.
Which leaves us with STR and second highest HP. And, admittedly STR is good, but their crappy AGI makes any hope of being an accurate RNG until much later levels pretty slim. Which makes WAR, MNK, DRG, DRK, PLD, BST (though few choose to play as this, as far as I can tell), and SAM really the only "highly usable" Elvaan jobs. Some of these jobs, other races are much better at...which is what brings us to direct comparison ^^;
Warrior
Tarutaru WARs are absolutley terrible. Low VIT, low STR, low HP... all the key characteristics of this job. Unless using it as a temporary subjob to level your subjob (ie leveling NIN for a Taru RNG/NIN) it is very difficult to get into the higher-levels as Taru.
Mithra WARs are absolutley fine. As are Humes. There really isn't much difference, but neither is that great. But Mithra and Hume get the thumbs up for being able to play _any_ job well.
Galka... the kings of WAR. Highest VIT, highest HP, and nearly as much STR as an Elvaan, they're simply amazing. As a tanking WAR, they have absolutley no flaws whatsoever. As a damage dealing WAR, er... that's an oxymoron, but...
Elvaan are only better than Galka as a damage dealing WAR, but face it: WAR is not your damage dealing class. They have less HP and VIT than Galka, which are the most crucial stats, which makes them not so good. I'm pretty sure everyone would rather have a Galka than an Elvaan tanking...
Winner = Galka
Monk
Monk... interesting job. Again, with WAR, Taru are slightly better this time around (as their VIT doesn't matter much and their HP is improved), and Hume/Mithra are the same.
Galka or Elvaan... hmm. Elvaan have more STR, but can't take hits as well, and can'tt ake as many hits. But MNK shouldn't be tanking... However, for most of the game, the difference between Galka and Elvaan damage is hardly noticeable, unless you are "lucky" enough to be in a party with a Galka MNK and an Elvaan MNK with equal level, subjob level, exact same equipment, and exact same food usage, and then you might see 1 or 2 more damage from the Elvaan. However, I guess since we're playing purely numbers, Elvaan do barely scratch it out on top...
Winner = Elvaan
Dragoon and Samurai
Taru DRGs... incredibley cute ^^
Hume and Mithra... average some more :x
Galka v Elvaan..... really, see above =\
Winner = Elvaan (x2)
Paladin
Mithra PLD's have nice evasion, decent magic, and decent overall stats. They're quite nice :). Hume's are slightly less good, but still there.
Taru PLD's... frankly, are awesome. Despite the difficulty of getting WAR up to 30, or whatever the case may be, they're capable of casting enough Cures to keep the hate on them and keep themselves alive :D. They work quite well.... not to mention look great in AF..
Elvaan PLD... you'd think they'd be made for this job, right? High STR, and high MND, and pretty high VIT and HP. They have to rely almost entirely on 'voke to keep hate on them, though.
Galkas, on the other hand, may seem like a poorer choice with lower MND and MP. But they take less damage, keep the hate on themselves better, and frankly; Galkas are a tanking class, and no snoddy elves can take that title from them.
Winner = Galka
Dark Knight
Hmm...
Taru DRK does quite well, looks incredibley awesome, and can be like your parties mini-BLM (highest INT) that swings for pretty high damage. Take one home today :)
Hume/Mithra.... same difference.
Elvaan does better in the STR department of this, but Galka beat them in INT. That's right, Galka are smarter than Elvaan. Don't ask me how but they are o_o'. It's a matter of preference between these two...
Winnder = Tarutaru
Beastmaster
Well, frankly, this job was pretty much made for Elvaan. Highest CHR for charming, highest STR for damage dealing, highest MND for sub WHM curing of self. I won't even touch this :P
Winnder = Elvaan
Which leaves us with the fact that, of those jobs listed above that Elvaan are "suited for," only MNK, DRG, SAM and BST are really the "best" for Elvaan... which are all basically the CTRL+A, Make a Sandwhich jobs.
Other Jobs
WHM, BLM, RDM, SMN:
No matter what your MND is, Elvaan, nor what converts hp to mp items you equip, Taru will always have more mp than you (can wear same items) and more mp = more effectiveness and less downtime.
RNG:
Heh.. this is probably a highly-argued over job. Any race is good at this job, because no matter how big your arms are, the damage output is enormous. Tarutaru and Mithra will always be better, though, because they will miss less times in a battle.
Example:
Elvaan RNG does 80 damage a hit, fires 20 times and hits 12: Total Damage: 960
Taru RNG does 70 damage a hit, fires 20 times and hits 15:
Total Damage: 1065
Who's the high and mighty race now? :P
NIN:
All races are equally good as NIN-tank, and besides that, NIN isn't a very superb main job...
BRD:
Bleh.. Elvaan may have a bit more CHR, but Tarus higher MP makes a WHM sub much more viable...
THF:
Besides Galka, any race is an effective THF...
What about roleplaying?
Elvaan may not be the best, but you can choose one because you like the way they act and want to be one and such. But seriously.... these guys are racist assholes (Halver, for example).
And if you ever see a guy Elvaan fight with a sword and a shield, he seems to stick his bottom out towards where his shield-hand is resting on his hip, and swings lazily... it looks... very very feminine. Not that femininity is bad, but seriously, with all their racist talk they should be able to stand up straight.
Their necks are just weird too :P
Summary, and Final Question:
Given all these facts and opinions of mine, I come to wonder....
Why would anyone want to be an Elvaan? Why are they so popular with NA players? And why are there few JP Elvaan? O.o
someone tell me please ; ;