erich.gold
07-20-2013, 02:25 PM



Track listing

1. Overture (02:27)
2. Main Title (03:00)
3. The Door Opens (03:38)
4. Zero Gravity (05:53)
5. Six Robots (01:59)
6. Durant is Dead (02:31)
7. Start the Countdown (03:51)
8. Laser (02:51)
9. Into the Hole (05:00)
10. End Title (02:34)



People: I'm beginning to share my Vinyl Collection, I have also a nice one, but it's costing me money, I'm doing it for the Community, but if I see no interest at all I will stop doing it, so please leave a simple thanks if you do like it, to continue sharing, enjoy!

New link, if interested leave a message.

Lord Fuckingham
07-20-2013, 03:07 PM
It's the black hole - AGAIN!
Oh, don't give me that black hole again

erich.gold
07-20-2013, 03:10 PM
I'd love to see your first share!

I'm sure you have an impressive collection...

k27
07-20-2013, 03:19 PM
I like vinyl rips, don't stop sharing them. Thank you very much!

ennius
07-20-2013, 03:29 PM
Thanks so much!

Petros
07-20-2013, 03:32 PM
Nice start!
Thank you for your offer, Eric!

F....d Lord, you can step aside.

(Sorry, I am foreign).

stonewalls
07-20-2013, 03:32 PM
I was looking for an upgrade to 320, so thanks a lot.

sorei
07-20-2013, 05:51 PM
deleted

wrong thread, sorry....

laohu
07-20-2013, 05:56 PM
Yes, you can repeat threads how many times like others do... :)
Don`t give a fuck what they`re saying, cause there`s always somebody that wants what you`re offering,

I like vinyl rips, and don`t forget to like me erich :)

Misteretc
07-20-2013, 08:11 PM
Thanks!

UVX238
07-21-2013, 09:25 AM
Hi erich,

A link would be greatly appreciated. :)

Thank you very much!

bollemanneke
07-21-2013, 11:05 AM
Okay, I'm gonna be rude as hell for a moment because I know I will feel better afterwards.

Erich: Even though I am not really interested in this share, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into sharing your things!
Lord Fuckingham: Can you please just do the world a favour and jump off a bridge? Let me tell you that I'm totally SICK of your fucking stories of having Prisoner of Azkaban, Eragon and other fucking recording sessions while I know deep down that you're nothing but a scammer that has fuck all. Your username disgusts me, your language disgusts me, and your tactics and attitude disgust me. I won't even go on and talk about who I think you really are. Just GO AWAY.

ladirection
07-21-2013, 02:38 PM
@ Lord

I agree. I'm so sick and tired of people sharing their music collection with me for free, damn them all �_�.

scoremaniatic
07-21-2013, 03:17 PM
I like vinyl rips, don't stop sharing them. Thank you very much!

I love vinyl, have also a few scores and many many Rock albums as well, as a matter of fact you can`t have a better quality from a CD than from an L.P.

That beeing said, i find fabulous that now you want to share your collection with us, don`t pay attention to foolish comments and to people that are not worth it, please send me the link and a million thanks for your generosity ! :) :)

Edit:

After a quick search a vinyl rip from this score hasn`t been posted here !

merdam
07-21-2013, 03:48 PM
Thanks!

enro99
07-21-2013, 04:05 PM
Would love to hear this.

Any way I can get a link to this? Thanks!

xphile7777
07-23-2013, 08:08 AM
Hey Eric! I would love a link to this! I love Vinyl! :D

Herr Salat
07-23-2013, 09:06 AM
xphile7777, erich.gold is gone forever...

EDIT: He's back :'D

Lord Fuckingham
07-24-2013, 02:24 PM
Obviously you could need a little spanking. You are so uptight you must learn how to chill. It relaxes your sphincter. This is where I come in. Now it's just the two of us. I will stuff your black hole, you can cry till doomsday. Until the black hole turns white.

Fucking yes!




Okay, I'm gonna be rude as hell for a moment because I know I will feel better afterwards.

Erich: Even though I am not really interested in this share, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into sharing your things!
Lord Fuckingham: Can you please just do the world a favour and jump off a bridge? Let me tell you that I'm totally SICK of your fucking stories of having Prisoner of Azkaban, Eragon and other fucking recording sessions while I know deep down that you're nothing but a scammer that has fuck all. Your username disgusts me, your language disgusts me, and your tactics and attitude disgust me. I won't even go on and talk about who I think you really are. Just GO AWAY.

scoremaniatic
07-24-2013, 10:01 PM
Fuckingprick you are more stupid than i thought !!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-25-2013, 11:12 PM
AS far as vinyl for The Black Hole is concerned, I believe an Italian company transferred the vinyl soundtrack to a CD pressing (bootleg).
Which was about the only "CD" version of the soundtrack there was before Disney/Intrada rectified it.

To date, I've never really gotten my hands on an actual vinyl rip before (88.1kHz:96kHz/24bit). Just the bootleg CD transferred from vinyl (ie. 44.1kHz/16bit).

I see no reason to attack this thread.
Even if it is in MP3. It's still a nostalgic mix of the soundtrack.

tangotreats
07-25-2013, 11:30 PM
Quite. From a quality perspective, this thread and this upload are both redundant... but for a vinyl experience, this is a godsend... Put this on, close your eyes, pretend it's 1979.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-25-2013, 11:33 PM
:ashine: A flac vinyl rip of this would be awesome.

tangotreats
07-25-2013, 11:43 PM
As I understand it, the vinyl was mastered from the digital recording (one of the very first) but the subsequent CD release was mastered from the analogue backup tapes... as the digital tapes were deemed insufficient in quality due to being recorded at 32khz sampling rate, 4-bit depth...

The vinyl transfers I've heard in the past (I never did get to hear Erich's) have shown no signal (vinyl noise and distortion notwithstanding) above 15khz which would be consistent with a 32khz recording.

(Please correct me if this is all cocking nonsense; it's late and I'm tired...)

If this is the case, there genuinely is nothing on the vinyl (apart from noise) that isn't present on the remaster. Whatever your opinion is of analogue recording and its hotly-contested comparison to digital recording... if the vinyl was indeed mastered from a forty year-old digital recording then you're wasting your time... :(

WildwoodPark
07-25-2013, 11:45 PM
@Tangotreats.."pretend it's 1979" ha

You weren't even born then!!!

The vinyl is flawless however that being said.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-25-2013, 11:47 PM
._.

It would make for an interesting experiment to examine all the versions.
I actually haven't ever gotten around to examining the CD bootleg I've found.

Since I bought the Disney/Intrada, I've never looked back at the older content that was available for this.

13mh13
07-26-2013, 05:25 AM
I had the vinyl, but lost it a few yrs ago, unfortunately. I have the Intrada, too. The vinyl can fetch decent $$ on eBay, so having it in even m320 is valuable. And the scientific value is equally high -- the Lp is effectively: DDA or DAA. And then back to D for the rip. How much is lost? How much is preserved? How good were the early A/D converters? And, IAC, one can hone their skills in tweaking rips, via constructive criticism and feedback from us freeloading listeners, instead of emotional scoffs and trolled pejoratives.
Bottom line: EG, I hope you can offer this title once again!!

erich.gold
07-26-2013, 04:33 PM
xphile7777, erich.gold is gone forever...


My good friend, I was gone... just for the week, this F***** guy he's just a child, he doesn't worth it, that morning I was already angry and he's comment irritate me even more, so I blew...

Besides I like you too much, so I need to save you some work in putting in all my threads the explanation ;)

About this L.P., well it has 29 years with me, actually it was my second score that I bought back in 1984 when I was 9 years old, the very first that I (with my money) bought was the L.P. of Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom, so I have a real sentimental value for this, but please expect some noise from this rip, I'll post the link tonight.

ragebot
07-27-2013, 03:23 PM
I'd love to hear this! Thank you very much!

erich.gold
07-27-2013, 04:14 PM
.

k27
07-27-2013, 05:27 PM
Thanks again for the post, Erich! I'm interested in your flac offer.

scoremaniatic
07-28-2013, 12:46 AM
Many thanks for the link :)

Misteretc
07-28-2013, 01:37 AM
Thanks so much!

Petros
07-28-2013, 04:49 PM
Thank you for the link, Eric.
The sound is great!

erich.gold
07-31-2013, 03:49 AM
Yes my friend, amazing after almost 30 years with me, I always try to take good care of my Collection, enjoy it :)

13mh13
07-31-2013, 04:43 AM
Yes my friend, amazing after almost 30 years with me, I always try to take good care of my Collection, enjoy it :)
Lp's are suppose to be more durable (longevous) than std. optical discs. There are special CD-Rs made for long life. Dunno about HDDs or SSDs ... their MTFB have gotten pretty high, but some estimates are based on powered on/spinning units -- don't think they do as well sitting unpowered.
For vinyl, you can use GruvGlide and (esp.) Last Factory treatments to improve sound fidelity and protect against stylus wear (saves wear on both vinyl and stylus).
Good to have you back, btw ;)

13mh13
07-31-2013, 07:26 AM
Okay ... just got done with a lengthy comparison between Erich's vinyl rip and a FLAC of 2011 Intrada. Other than some extensive groove-wear distortion, the vinyl sounds both different and in some ways better than Intrada. Just curious Erich: what equipment was used to rip, as the results are good. The groove damage distortion is quite audible. But, in our limited-$$ youth, we all started out with cheap playback equipment and were not careful, anyway, in our playback skills -- recall the mass-loading coins on the cartridge to keep the stylus better tracking! The laser turntable is supposed to be able to read deeper into the groove channel --where tradit. mechanical stylus never touches-- so ripping with laser TT may be an option for those lucky enough to have access to one. (Surprised this technology didn't catch on, even in public archives, libraries and academia)

Bottom line: Private vinyl rips are a good way to keep the re-issue companies on their feet! I'm surprised that despite Intrada's technical write up to promote this release ... in direct comparison, the CD re-issue doesn't hold up so well.

oknihcap1
07-31-2013, 08:36 AM
Okay ... just got done with a lengthy comparison between Erich's vinyl rip and a FLAC of 2011 Intrada. Other than some extensive groove-wear distortion, the vinyl sounds both different and in some ways better than Intrada. Just curious Erich: what equipment was used to rip, as the results are good. The groove damage distortion is quite audible. But, in our limited-$$ youth, we all started out with cheap playback equipment and were not careful, anyway, in our playback skills -- recall the mass-loading coins on the cartridge to keep the stylus better tracking! The laser turntable is supposed to be able to read deeper into the groove channel --where tradit. mechanical stylus never touches-- so ripping with laser TT may be an option for those lucky enough to have access to one. (Surprised this technology didn't catch on, even in public archives, libraries and academia)

Bottom line: Private vinyl rips are a good way to keep the re-issue companies on their feet! I'm surprised that despite Intrada's technical write up to promote this release ... in direct comparison, the CD re-issue doesn't hold up so well.

I'm not so sure about any of that. Did you actually read the liner notes for the Intrada CD? They specifically talk about instruments that can't even be heard on the vinyl because the vinyl was recorded from a limited number of tracks, eliminating some of the instrumentation.

---------- Post added at 01:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:26 AM ----------


As I understand it, the vinyl was mastered from the digital recording (one of the very first) but the subsequent CD release was mastered from the analogue backup tapes... as the digital tapes were deemed insufficient in quality due to being recorded at 32khz sampling rate, 4-bit depth...

The vinyl transfers I've heard in the past (I never did get to hear Erich's) have shown no signal (vinyl noise and distortion notwithstanding) above 15khz which would be consistent with a 32khz recording.

(Please correct me if this is all cocking nonsense; it's late and I'm tired...)

If this is the case, there genuinely is nothing on the vinyl (apart from noise) that isn't present on the remaster. Whatever your opinion is of analogue recording and its hotly-contested comparison to digital recording... if the vinyl was indeed mastered from a forty year-old digital recording then you're wasting your time... :(

Agreed. Overall I'm a big fan of vinyl transfers, especially since there's still so many scores that haven't been released on CD properly. In this case however, the vinyl was from a very old digital master - the first of it's kind actually, and as such the vinyl is vastly inferior to the CD.

---------- Post added at 01:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:33 AM ----------


I had the vinyl, but lost it a few yrs ago, unfortunately. I have the Intrada, too. The vinyl can fetch decent $$ on eBay, so having it in even m320 is valuable. And the scientific value is equally high -- the Lp is effectively: DDA or DAA. And then back to D for the rip. How much is lost? How much is preserved? How good were the early A/D converters? And, IAC, one can hone their skills in tweaking rips, via constructive criticism and feedback from us freeloading listeners, instead of emotional scoffs and trolled pejoratives.
Bottom line: EG, I hope you can offer this title once again!!

From what I see on Ebay the vinyl gets between $10-$20. Not very much.

---------- Post added at 01:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:35 AM ----------


Done, now the link is in the first post, if you want flac I guess I can do it sometime tomorrow, enjoy!

Personally, if you plan to share vinyl rips, I always appreciate flac.

stefmcd
07-31-2013, 12:12 PM
Fascinating thread. Such an atmospheric soundtrack. Never seen a laser turntable before. Amazing.
:-)

13mh13
07-31-2013, 02:19 PM
I'm not so sure about any of that. Did you actually read the liner notes for the Intrada CD? They specifically talk about instruments that can't even be heard on the vinyl because the vinyl was recorded from a limited number of tracks, eliminating some of the instrumentation.You'r right: I should've been clearer. I did read the liner and by "different" I meant a different MIX, which corroborates with what Intrada claims. That said, I prefer the mastering and mix of the orig. (whatever format it happened to have been orig. released on: Lp, 8-track, cassette). Intrada mix/mastering makes instruments seem smaller and in the distance. The orig. mix -- on vinyl, whatever -- has wider soundstage and the instruments sound bigger and more fwd. It's a personal choice -- both for the mastering engr. and end listener.

---------- Post added at 06:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:49 AM ----------


Quote: Originally Posted by tangotreats:

As I understand it, the vinyl was mastered from the digital recording (one of the very first) but the subsequent CD release was mastered from the analogue backup tapes... as the digital tapes were deemed insufficient in quality due to being recorded at 32khz sampling rate, 4-bit depth....The above information is mostly incorrect. In fact, if FSM's account (http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=81890) is accurate (based on Intrada info), a 50khz / 16bit 32-track 3M digital recording system (http://mixonline.com/TECnology-Hall-of-Fame/1978-EM-Mastering/) was used. A "32k / 4bit" system is old-telephone quality.
Indeed, if the vinyl was made from some high-quality proprietary D/A utilizing full 50khz / 16bit, it could be better than CD (which is 44.1k/16).
Higher-than-CD sample rates in early digital recordings were not uncommon. E.g., Telarc's Soundstream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundstream) and Decca Digital. Both were running 50khz in the late 70s, like the 3M system Disney used.

erich.gold
08-03-2013, 07:01 AM
Okay ... just got done with a lengthy comparison between Erich's vinyl rip and a FLAC of 2011 Intrada. Other than some extensive groove-wear distortion, the vinyl sounds both different and in some ways better than Intrada. Just curious Erich: what equipment was used to rip, as the results are good.


To tell you the truth, I don't know (next time I will ask) a guy is charging me about U.S. $ 5.00 per disc and $ 10.00 if he makes a cleaning restoration process, I have in my Collection almost 100 LPs, so you can imagine the cost will be enormous, but he just delivered me another 10, I'll try to pick up the most worthy to share with you guys.

oknihcap1
08-03-2013, 08:17 AM
That laser turntable looks awesome. I've never even heard of those. I'd love to know more about it, even though I could never afford one.

13mh13
08-03-2013, 06:04 PM
That laser turntable looks awesome. I've never even heard of those. I'd love to know more about it, even though I could never afford one.The technology has existed for decades, but there were technical and $$ issues bringing it to consumer level.

On private request, the company used to send free sample CD-Rs of what the technology could do. I'll have to dig out that sample, rip it, and post it some time.

Some light reading the about the laser TT:


http://www.stereophile.com/content/review-request-new-2010-elp-laser-turntable-high-end-model
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/elp-lt-1lrc-laser-turntable/
http://www.audioturntable.com/customer/stereophile.pdf

Back to 1979 BH vinyl ... EG, I didn't know you were paying a service to rip. That said, the price isn't bad if you don't have to go thru the hassle of shipping or driving record to the service provider. If you only have ~100 LPs and it costs $5 per HQ rip, you don't need a TT.

The diffs. I noted between the 1979 vinyl and 2011 Intrada are pretty much FORMAT INDEPENDENT. It's more a matter of engineering choices made by orig. Disney folks vs. Intrada folks. Maybe HDTracks will one day come to the rescue with another "remaster" ;)

---------- Post added at 10:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 AM ----------

Another interesting vinyl note ...
One of the BEST-SOUNDING CDs in my collection is Buddy Rich -- Rich & Famous, a 1983 analog-recorded live album initially only released on LP. In the mid-90s, the official CD was released by Tko Magnum Meteor, but they could not find a high-quality magnetic-tape master so they CAREFULLY ripped an Lp to digital and released that on CD. It sounds like high-rez digital, but there are some surprisingly loud pops and clicks. Somewhere on some host, an RAR of this CD exists, so have a listen yourself ;)
Bottom line: Done right, vinyl rips can sound really, really good.

(also see Wiki page and comments on Amazon.com)

castas
08-06-2013, 11:32 PM
Thank you

thunderball
08-07-2013, 01:08 AM
Hey erich.gold,
I Love these Vinyl rips!
Don't stop shareing.
Thanks so much!
Thunderball!

Nicole_FML
08-07-2013, 01:53 AM
Thank you love LP records as well.

Anaximander
08-30-2013, 01:58 AM
Okay ... just got done with a lengthy comparison between Erich's vinyl rip and a FLAC of 2011 Intrada. Other than some extensive groove-wear distortion, the vinyl sounds both different and in some ways better than Intrada. Just curious Erich: what equipment was used to rip, as the results are good. The groove damage distortion is quite audible. But, in our limited-$$ youth, we all started out with cheap playback equipment and were not careful, anyway, in our playback skills -- recall the mass-loading coins on the cartridge to keep the stylus better tracking! The laser turntable is supposed to be able to read deeper into the groove channel --where tradit. mechanical stylus never touches-- so ripping with laser TT may be an option for those lucky enough to have access to one. (Surprised this technology didn't catch on, even in public archives, libraries and academia)

Bottom line: Private vinyl rips are a good way to keep the re-issue companies on their feet! I'm surprised that despite Intrada's technical write up to promote this release ... in direct comparison, the CD re-issue doesn't hold up so well.

god how i would love to own that machine

Lord Fuckingham
09-03-2013, 12:33 AM
My oh my, am I a naughty little fucking cunt or what?



My good friend, I was gone... just for the week, this F***** guy he's just a child, he doesn't worth it, that morning I was already angry and he's comment irritate me even more, so I blew...

Besides I like you too much, so I need to save you some work in putting in all my threads the explanation ;)

About this L.P., well it has 29 years with me, actually it was my second score that I bought back in 1984 when I was 9 years old, the very first that I (with my money) bought was the L.P. of Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom, so I have a real sentimental value for this, but please expect some noise from this rip, I'll post the link tonight.

oknihcap1
09-05-2013, 06:03 AM
It's about time that troll got banned.

Cristobalito2007
11-20-2013, 11:23 AM
thank you very much!

vagabonds
11-20-2013, 04:04 PM
What a much better than fine thing to do. I will savor this. You see, when I hadn't seen the film, I brought home this soundtrack LP. Now... it's going to home once more. Thank you.

erich.gold
12-02-2013, 01:17 AM
What a much better than fine thing to do. I will savor this. You see, when I hadn't seen the film, I brought home this soundtrack LP. Now... it's going to home once more. Thank you.


Really glad to help vagabonds, take care.

erich.gold
01-12-2014, 02:35 AM
Link still active!

Exarch13
01-12-2014, 03:14 AM
Thank you Erich!

Kaolin
01-12-2014, 10:22 PM
Thank you!

Marx900
08-19-2014, 02:23 AM
Could you please re-up this score? i'd really appreciate it :) Thank you in advance!

Marx900
08-25-2014, 10:15 PM
I'd really appreciate it

erich.gold
10-05-2014, 10:57 PM
I'd really appreciate it


Okay my friend , new link available if anyone else wishes this.

CELTICPROUD
10-05-2014, 11:02 PM
any chance of link please
cheers
much appriated

erich.gold
10-12-2014, 11:01 PM
any chance of link please
cheers
much appriated


Sure, enjoy it.

CELTICPROUD
10-14-2014, 02:15 PM
link recieved
thanx
much appriated

plankton68
11-14-2014, 04:08 AM
Could I have the link please? Thanks for your efforts!

Gran Capitan
11-14-2014, 04:56 PM
Can you send me the link, please? Thanks for sharing, erich.gold

jakegittis
11-14-2014, 06:16 PM
Love the link, and thanks for the vinyl shares.

manugea
11-14-2014, 07:18 PM
Hello I would also like the link. Many thanks !!

Pablo82
11-14-2014, 08:15 PM
Hola, Erich. Muy, muy interesado amigo.
Asombra tu colecci�n.
Gracias por compartirla!!!

ik+
11-14-2014, 09:34 PM
Thank you Erich. This film brings back so many memory's for me. Vincent + Maximilian (had these as toys).

Pablo82
11-23-2014, 01:53 AM
Recibido, amigo. Siento la demora. Pero mi fck conexi�n...

reppa35
10-30-2015, 06:31 PM
A flac vinyl rip of this would be awesome. thanks

rub-55
10-30-2015, 07:36 PM
Could I have the link, please? Thanks you very much in advanced!

jamesb12
11-16-2015, 09:13 PM
could i have link to this soundtrack please

ru4an01
11-17-2015, 03:22 PM
Could you please send me the link? Would be much appreciated, many thanks!

shadoman213
02-27-2016, 05:43 AM
Hi =

A link please? This score was haunting...

ronbrothers
02-27-2016, 10:49 AM
I'd love a link to this please. Thank you!

srupert
11-01-2016, 07:23 PM
Going out on a limb to ask for this link.

ike7
04-22-2019, 04:38 PM
Thanks

Ike7

bbtech
04-27-2019, 09:27 PM
Would love a link. Always like seeing vinyl rips.