DingDongSenior
06-29-2013, 08:02 PM
Getting very excited!

Oblivion Blu-ray Set For August | Hi-Def Ninja (http://www.hidefninja.com/2013/06/04/oblivion-blu-ray-set-for-august/)

C.MD
06-29-2013, 09:19 PM
A-haa))

DAKoftheOTA
06-30-2013, 12:43 AM
Well it's Anthony Gonzalez & Joseph Trapanese, not M83. It's not coming out any sooner, so isn't it a little early? Someone here will do it, I know several people who have already told me they plan on ripping the Blu-ray. Patience

DjawadiFan
06-30-2013, 02:29 PM
a big patience.. not hurry

foxtown
07-23-2013, 02:53 PM
Wasn't the Deluxe Edition Complete?!

What else would there be on the isolated score that's not on the Deluxe Edition? Better quality but therefor volume changes? I doubt that the iso score has anything new music or is in lossless but I would like to hear it in 5.1... hoping for that!

DjawadiFan
07-23-2013, 03:12 PM
Right, the DE is more complete and contained most of the film music unlike MOS the deluxe edition, any way the isolated score will be completely the full film versions of the score, and we're interesting!

DAKoftheOTA
07-23-2013, 04:11 PM
Wasn't the Deluxe Edition Complete?!

What else would there be on the isolated score that's not on the Deluxe Edition? Better quality but therefor volume changes? I doubt that the iso score has anything new music or is in lossless but I would like to hear it in 5.1... hoping for that!

Just because the Deluxe Edition is mostly complete, that doesn't make it the film mix. The score will be chopped and edited exactly as heard in the film. Cues will be mixed together, cut short, etc.

August 6th is the release date (yes, I'm aware it was released on iTunes yesterday) so it's unnecessary to ask for it again. Someone will rip it and post it. I guarantee it :)

foxtown
07-24-2013, 11:10 AM
Audiotracks:

Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 5033 kbps / 24-bit
(DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: Spanish / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Audio: French / DTS Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: English / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 2589 kbps / 16-bit
(AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)

One of the 2.0 Audio tracks is a commentary.

I wonder which one is the isolated score, the other 2.0 track or the Dolby TrueHD Audio 5.1 (lossless)? Both ?

foxtown
07-24-2013, 04:33 PM
to answer my question:


Isolated Music Score in Dolby TrueHD 5.1 - Watch the entire film accompanied by the evocative music track

source: Oblivion (Blu-ray) Official AVSForum Review (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482702/oblivion-blu-ray-official-avsforum-review)

Lossless Complete score :D

Timeisnear
07-25-2013, 01:45 PM
Well it's Anthony Gonzalez & Joseph Trapanese, not M83. It's not coming out any sooner, so isn't it a little early? Someone here will do it, I know several people who have already told me they plan on ripping the Blu-ray. Patience

Well actually... Anthony Gonzalez and Joseph Trapanese did lead orchestral part of soundtrack, M83 wrote whole thing and record own musical instruments...
So overall it is created by M83.

C.MD
07-25-2013, 02:07 PM
Lossless Complete score
I told ya..!!! Woo-hoo!

---------- Post added at 07:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:07 AM ----------


Lossless Complete score
I told ya..!!! Woo-hoo!

theeaglesfan005
07-25-2013, 02:13 PM
Well actually... Anthony Gonzalez and Joseph Trapanese did lead orchestral part of soundtrack, M83 wrote whole thing and record own musical instruments...
So overall it is created by M83.

They used an orchestra to record... M83 wrote the end credits song "Oblivion" which features Susanne Sundf�r

Anthony Gonzalez and Joseph Trapanese are the ones that did most the composing.

In all the pics JT posted on his Facebook, Twitter, & Instagram it showed him and Gonzalez doing the work mostly.


Just because the Deluxe Edition is mostly complete, that doesn't make it the film mix. The score will be chopped and edited exactly as heard in the film. Cues will be mixed together, cut short, etc.

August 6th is the release date (yes, I'm aware it was released on iTunes yesterday) so it's unnecessary to ask for it again. Someone will rip it and post it. I guarantee it :)

The deluxe edition is complete

"and includes every note from the film"


But I'm sure a rip from the bluray will be film mixes... im not sure if the deluxe edition is a film mix... i have only seen the movie 2x

DjawadiFan
07-25-2013, 03:09 PM
Exactly, agreed.

DAKoftheOTA
07-25-2013, 03:43 PM
Let's hope that the slates will be included

foxtown
07-25-2013, 04:46 PM
Let's hope that the slates will be included

Where should the slates be included? another bonus feature?

DjawadiFan
07-25-2013, 05:07 PM
Slates from the isolated.. what is the..?

DAKoftheOTA
07-25-2013, 05:58 PM
Where should the slates be included? another bonus feature?

Well the way I see it, some iso scores have the slates. It's almost like having subtitles on the screen. The Alien Anthology Blu-ray had the slates for (I believe) all 4 films. I know for sure Alien� did. So that's why I say "hopefully"

hack3rman
07-25-2013, 06:55 PM
Well the way I see it, some iso scores have the slates. It's almost like having subtitles on the screen. The Alien Anthology Blu-ray had the slates for (I believe) all 4 films. I know for sure Alien� did. So that's why I say "hopefully"

I know on the Alien Blu-Ray, you can hear Jerry Goldsmith announce the slates before some of the cues, if not all. I cant remember if he announces the slates for all cues because I haven't watched the Blu-Ray with the isolated music track in a long while.

Timeisnear
07-25-2013, 07:03 PM
They used an orchestra to record... M83 wrote the end credits song "Oblivion" which features Susanne Sundf�r

Anthony Gonzalez and Joseph Trapanese are the ones that did most the composing.

Well im not trying to fight with you but lets have look on interview with a M83, i think he is saying that himself...

Pitchfork: How many times have you seen the actual film?
AG: I probably watched it in its entirety maybe seven or eight times. Especially with some cues, you become obsessed-- you're dreaming of the pictures. You can't sleep because there's this music in your head. It was hard, but I learned so much and I feel like I grew up a lot as an artist working on this film. You have to be consistent. You have to do quick turnovers when something is not appealing for the studios or the directors. I quickly realized that all the ideas of the music I had before working on it weren't going to happen because it's Hollywood and because it's a $150 million dollar budget. I'm not the boss. I'm just someone working for them.
Pitchfork: What kind of notes did the studio give you for the soundtrack?
AG: They needed something bigger, more orchestral; it was hard for me to be told that my music was too indie for the film. I was pissed most of the time, but this is how it works. It's like, "Take it or leave it." And I took it. [laughs]
Overall, I'm excited about it. But I'm stressed out because I know people are going to hate the soundtrack so much because it's different. People are going to expect a new album from M83, and that's not the case. But, I'm also super proud of it because Joe Trapanese and I worked so hard on it to make everybody happy at the studio. It's a two-hour movie and it's one hour 45 minutes of music, so it was a challenge.

DAKoftheOTA
07-25-2013, 07:28 PM
Well im not trying to fight with you but lets have look on interview with a M83, i think he is saying that himself...

Pitchfork: How many times have you seen the actual film?
AG: I probably watched it in its entirety maybe seven or eight times. Especially with some cues, you become obsessed-- you're dreaming of the pictures. You can't sleep because there's this music in your head. It was hard, but I learned so much and I feel like I grew up a lot as an artist working on this film. You have to be consistent. You have to do quick turnovers when something is not appealing for the studios or the directors. I quickly realized that all the ideas of the music I had before working on it weren't going to happen because it's Hollywood and because it's a $150 million dollar budget. I'm not the boss. I'm just someone working for them.
Pitchfork: What kind of notes did the studio give you for the soundtrack?
AG: They needed something bigger, more orchestral; it was hard for me to be told that my music was too indie for the film. I was pissed most of the time, but this is how it works. It's like, "Take it or leave it." And I took it. [laughs]
Overall, I'm excited about it. But I'm stressed out because I know people are going to hate the soundtrack so much because it's different. People are going to expect a new album from M83, and that's not the case. But, I'm also super proud of it because Joe Trapanese and I worked so hard on it to make everybody happy at the studio. It's a two-hour movie and it's one hour 45 minutes of music, so it was a challenge.


And the reason people expect a new M83 album is because it's labeled a such. People see M83 on the front cover and they think "they did the soundtrack!". That's what everyone I know (who's not a film score collector like I am) said about it. But the front cover clearly states:


Original Music by M33
Score Composed by Anthony Gonzalez & Joseph Trapanese

"Original Music" and "Score" being the key words here. M83 did the title track, the theme song. The score is composed by Anthony Gonzalez & Joseph Trapanese


<a href="http://imgur.com/nYToItS">

<a href="http://imgur.com/3XLwhxO">


I know on the Alien Blu-Ray, you can hear Jerry Goldsmith announce the slates before some of the cues, if not all. I cant remember if he announces the slates for all cues because I haven't watched the Blu-Ray with the isolated music track in a long while.

That's very interesting, I'm about to go pop in Alien and check it out

Timeisnear
07-25-2013, 07:43 PM
I dont know what i can say more, even in artbook its clearly said that M83 was the first idea for the movie when it was only wroted... The man said in that interview very clearly that he did the job, i dont know what more you want to know, its not about taking something for label, the last song is only made by M83, for that reason is everything else named Gonzalez and Trapanase, im not sure if you know that but Gonzales is a frontman of M83, so its just him a creator of M83 in cooperation with Trapanese without his band, thats like almost same thing, Gonzalez did get Trapanese for the job because he doesnt have full orchestral in his disposal or cant be dirigent in that point, thats why Trapanase is there, for helping Gonzalez....
I dont mean this bad, but really this is from man who wroting songs for band M83, so basicaly label doesnt lie, because without Gonzalez, M83 will be not like they are, right?

DAKoftheOTA
07-25-2013, 07:50 PM
I dont know what i can say more, even in artbook its clearly said that M83 was the first idea for the movie when it was only wroted... The man said in that interview very clearly that he did the job, i dont know what more you want to know, its not about taking something for label, the last song is only made by M83, for that reason is everything else named Gonzalez and Trapanase, im not sure if you know that but Gonzales is a frontman of M83, so its just him a creator of M83 in cooperation with Trapanese without his band, thats like almost same thing, Gonzalez did get Trapanese for the job because he doesnt have full orchestral in his disposal or cant be dirigent in that point, thats why Trapanase is there, for helping Gonzalez....
I dont mean this bad, but really this is from man who wroting songs for band M83, so basicaly label doesnt lie, because without Gonzalez, M83 will be not like they are, right?

I know he's the leader. They're one of my favorite bands, I'm seeing them in September.

Now I don't quite know where you're going. What I'm saying is the only musical contribution by M83 as a whole is "Oblivion". The rest is composed By Gonzalez & Trapanese. Now you're saying that he did compose the score (along with Trapanese), which is what I've been saying all along....

pietastesgood
07-25-2013, 07:55 PM
^Damn, lucky. I want to go to the September concert in LA but school's already started by then for me.

foxtown
07-25-2013, 07:59 PM
I know on the Alien Blu-Ray, you can hear Jerry Goldsmith announce the slates before some of the cues, if not all. I cant remember if he announces the slates for all cues because I haven't watched the Blu-Ray with the isolated music track in a long while.

There's no announcment of the slates on this isolated score!
No volume changes either, real beauty ;)

Timeisnear
07-25-2013, 08:00 PM
hehehe sorry ive been little bit convinced that you thought that the main thing is more about Trapanese, well i was wrong and just trying to clear that out...

hack3rman
07-25-2013, 08:03 PM
There's no announcment of the slates on this isolated score!
No volume changes either, real beauty ;)

I thought for sure i heard him announce it. Again, haven't listened to that track in a longtime.

foxtown
07-25-2013, 08:04 PM
I thought for sure i heard him announce it. Again, haven't listened to that track in a longtime.

I mean Oblivion, not Alien.

theeaglesfan005
07-25-2013, 08:17 PM
Well im not trying to fight with you but lets have look on interview with a M83, i think he is saying that himself...

Pitchfork: How many times have you seen the actual film?
AG: I probably watched it in its entirety maybe seven or eight times. Especially with some cues, you become obsessed-- you're dreaming of the pictures. You can't sleep because there's this music in your head. It was hard, but I learned so much and I feel like I grew up a lot as an artist working on this film. You have to be consistent. You have to do quick turnovers when something is not appealing for the studios or the directors. I quickly realized that all the ideas of the music I had before working on it weren't going to happen because it's Hollywood and because it's a $150 million dollar budget. I'm not the boss. I'm just someone working for them.
Pitchfork: What kind of notes did the studio give you for the soundtrack?
AG: They needed something bigger, more orchestral; it was hard for me to be told that my music was too indie for the film. I was pissed most of the time, but this is how it works. It's like, "Take it or leave it." And I took it. [laughs]
Overall, I'm excited about it. But I'm stressed out because I know people are going to hate the soundtrack so much because it's different. People are going to expect a new album from M83, and that's not the case. But, I'm also super proud of it because Joe Trapanese and I worked so hard on it to make everybody happy at the studio. It's a two-hour movie and it's one hour 45 minutes of music, so it was a challenge.

Since when did M83 become ONE guy? ಠ_ಠ

"M83 is a French electronic band from Antibes, formed in 2001 by Anthony Gonzalez and Nicolas Fromageau."

M83 (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M83_(band))


I dont know what i can say more, even in artbook its clearly said that M83 was the first idea for the movie when it was only wroted... The man said in that interview very clearly that he did the job, i dont know what more you want to know, its not about taking something for label, the last song is only made by M83, for that reason is everything else named Gonzalez and Trapanase, im not sure if you know that but Gonzales is a frontman of M83, so its just him a creator of M83 in cooperation with Trapanese without his band, thats like almost same thing, Gonzalez did get Trapanese for the job because he doesnt have full orchestral in his disposal or cant be dirigent in that point, thats why Trapanase is there, for helping Gonzalez....
I dont mean this bad, but really this is from man who wroting songs for band M83, so basicaly label doesnt lie, because without Gonzalez, M83 will be not like they are, right?

In interviews, Joseph Kosinski said he was listening to M83 and wanted them to do the score for Oblivion (like he wanted Daft Punk to do the score for Tron: Legacy)

I have been following this movie and score for some time, JK is one of my favorite directors.

In all the (behind the scenes) photos that JT posted on his Twitter (https://twitter.com/joecomposer), Instagram (http://instagram.com/joecomposer), & Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/josephtrapanese) it showed him and Anthony Gonzalez composing and writing the score. The score was recorded at Skywalker Sound with an orchestra.

And like DAKoftheOTA (http://forums.ffshrine.org/members/dakoftheota-535245) said, the only song M83 did... meaning both members... the whole band... was "Oblivion"

DAKoftheOTA
07-25-2013, 08:20 PM
^Damn, lucky. I want to go to the September concert in LA but school's already started by then for me.

Sunday, September 22nd 7PM at The Hollywood Bowl. Phantogram is opening for M83

DjawadiFan
07-25-2013, 08:46 PM
Thanks for the info dak..

foxtown
07-25-2013, 11:47 PM
Does anyone know where the track "Earth 2077" is played in the movie? I can't place it...

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-26-2013, 12:05 AM
Audio: English / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 5.1 / 96 kHz / 2589 kbps / 16-bit
(AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)


source: Isolated Music Score in Dolby TrueHD 5.1 (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482702/oblivion-blu-ray-official-avsforum-review)

96kHz? :ashine:
It should be pretty hard to mess up the extraction process for this.
Ripping TrueHD to FLAC is much easier than DTS-HD MA to FLAC.
FFMPEG supports TrueHD decoding natively where as DTS-HD MA would require something more precise and accurate like ArcSoft decoder.

So there's one thing to look out for if the audiophiles want to watch if they want to download a FLAC rip.
The embedded AC3 is a lossy format. AC3 is always lossy.

One thing I'm really glad for is that it isn't 7.1 mix like the film.
7.1 is quite a useless mix, imo.
I have, at max 5.1. No one I know has 7.1 at home.

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JK is one of my favorite directors.

lol, this is only his second film. I loved Tron: Legacy, and that commercial he did for Gears of War, though so I'm looking forward to his future work.
I heard he was set to direct a remake of The Black Hole.
Do you know any news if it was dropped or delayed?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-26-2013, 02:29 AM
I believe that also The Corruptor on DVD with had the isolated score with slates.
In the menu, you can see the movie has different chapters, according to slate numbers.
The chapters for the isolated score are placed differently than the original feature film playback chapters.

The blu-ray of The Corruptor dropped the iso score entirely.

theeaglesfan005
07-26-2013, 01:37 PM
Does anyone know where the track "Earth 2077" is played in the movie? I can't place it...

It should be playing when Jack is underground with the the "scavs"... at least that's where it fits in with the track listing... mostly when Jack leaves with Julia on the bike... but the cue in the movie is different

Even more reason to have that isolated score

foxtown
07-26-2013, 01:44 PM
It should be playing when Jack is underground with the the "scavs"... at least that's where it fits in with the track listing... mostly when Jack leaves with Julia on the bike... but the cue in the movie is different

Even more reason to have that isolated score

No, it's not on the isolated score. The whole scene with Jack underground with the "scavs" is without music.
Maybe it's an alternate of another cue or it was used elsewhere. That's why I asked...

edit: the track where Jack leaves with Julia is called "Return to Empire State"

theeaglesfan005
07-26-2013, 01:58 PM
No, it's not on the isolated score. The whole scene with Jack underground with the "scavs" is without music.
Maybe it's an alternate of another cue or it was used elsewhere. That's why I asked...

edit: the track where Jack leaves with Julia is called "Return to Empire State"

Shit.. you're right... just watched the film.. Revelations plays right before that and then drone attack when 185 attacks

looks like Earth 2077 is a bonus cue?

foxtown
07-26-2013, 02:04 PM
Shit.. you're right... just watched the film.. Revelations plays right before that and then drone attack when 185 attacks

looks like Earth 2077 is a bonus cue?

looks like it :D

The Deluxe Album tracklist is in the correct chronological order, so I wonder why that track was put in the middle of it... maybe it was used in a deleted scene?

Anyways, good to have it and maybe someone can figure it out^^

theeaglesfan005
07-26-2013, 04:16 PM
looks like it :D

The Deluxe Album tracklist is in the correct chronological order, so I wonder why that track was put in the middle of it... maybe it was used in a deleted scene?

Anyways, good to have it and maybe someone can figure it out^^

There are 4 deleted scenes that were in the iTunes extras fro Oblivion

"Bubbleship Flyby"
"Stadium - Original Opening"
"Medkit"
"The Archives"

it's not in any of them

I'll tweet JT, and see if he responds

hack3rman
07-26-2013, 04:49 PM
96kHz? :ashine:
It should be pretty hard to mess up the extraction process for this.
Ripping TrueHD to FLAC is much easier than DTS-HD MA to FLAC.
FFMPEG supports TrueHD decoding natively where as DTS-HD MA would require something more precise and accurate like ArcSoft decoder.

So there's one thing to look out for if the audiophiles want to watch if they want to download a FLAC rip.
The embedded AC3 is a lossy format. AC3 is always lossy.

One thing I'm really glad for is that it isn't 7.1 mix like the film.
7.1 is quite a useless mix, imo.
I have, at max 5.1. No one I know has 7.1 at home.

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lol, this is only his second film. I loved Tron: Legacy, and that commercial he did for Gears of War, though so I'm looking forward to his future work.
I heard he was set to direct a remake of The Black Hole.
Do you know any news if it was dropped or delayed?

You can also convert DTS-HD MA to FLAC using audacity if you have the FFMPEG plugin installed.

I like 7.1 in some films. TRON: Legacy sounds fantastic in 7.1! And im sure Oblivion will too. I have a 7.1 setup in my apartment.

Joseph Kosinski is still attached to The Black Hole. In a recent interview he said that both The Black Hole and TRON 3 were in the writing stage, and that he will direct whichever comes first.

It seems that TRON 3 will happen first since they're closer to a final draft then The Black Hole is.

theeaglesfan005
07-26-2013, 04:51 PM
You can also convert DTS-HD MA to FLAC using audacity if you have the FFMPEG plugin installed.

I like 7.1 in some films. TRON: Legacy sounds fantastic in 7.1! And im sure Oblivion will too. I have a 7.1 setup in my apartment.

Joseph Kosinski is still attached to The Black Hole. In a recent interview he said that both The Black Hole and TRON 3 were in the writing stage, and that he will direct whichever comes first.

It seems that TRON 3 will happen first since they're closer to a final draft then The Black Hole is.

the sooner they do Tron 3, the better... dont need to wait another 28 years for a Tron sequel like the gap between Tron & Tron: Legacy

hack3rman
07-26-2013, 05:07 PM
the sooner they do Tron 3, the better... dont need to wait another 28 years for a Tron sequel like the gap between Tron & Tron: Legacy

I agree!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-27-2013, 12:27 AM
You can also convert DTS-HD MA to FLAC using audacity if you have the FFMPEG plugin installed.

I've not tried FFMPEG. I don't know how bit-exact it is.
Many of the software developers/authors on doom9 don't really praise ffmpeg for converting DTS-HD MA.
ArcSoft decoder seems to be the prized decoder, especially concerning 7.1 and 7.1 with strange setup (non-standard channel order).
Also, the ffmpeg libraries for Audacity are really old.
But it won't be updated anytime soon, something about not all the debug symbols being available for current binaries and not all the devs for Audacity have time to compile their own match Audacity. Got into a lengthy email with someone over at Audicty about the outdated libraries.
I think "hey, it's free" really sums it up.


I like 7.1 in some films. TRON: Legacy sounds fantastic in 7.1! And im sure Oblivion will too. I have a 7.1 setup in my apartment.

I can hear some bass distortion when I play Tron: Legacy. I haven't watched the 3D blu-ray yet. But the 2D blu-ray really gives off some heavy distortion right around the end with the dog fight with their flying vehicles.
A couple of other people have also experienced heavy distortion too.
A lot of us doesn't believe that it's supposed to sound that way either. There's some debate about it on several forums.

Do you get bass distortion?
Without a subwoofer. Watching with a subwoofer seems to distract people from the distortion and blind people.


Joseph Kosinski is still attached to The Black Hole. In a recent interview he said that both The Black Hole and TRON 3 were in the writing stage, and that he will direct whichever comes first.

It seems that TRON 3 will happen first since they're closer to a final draft then The Black Hole is.

That's wonderful news!
I'm looking forward to the graphics updates.

hack3rman
07-27-2013, 02:34 AM
I've not tried FFMPEG. I don't know how bit-exact it is.
Many of the software developers/authors on doom9 don't really praise ffmpeg for converting DTS-HD MA.
ArcSoft decoder seems to be the prized decoder, especially concerning 7.1 and 7.1 with strange setup (non-standard channel order).
Also, the ffmpeg libraries for Audacity are really old.
But it won't be updated anytime soon, something about not all the debug symbols being available for current binaries and not all the devs for Audacity have time to compile their own match Audacity. Got into a lengthy email with someone over at Audicty about the outdated libraries.
I think "hey, it's free" really sums it up.


Yeah I've ripped a few DTS-HD MA tracks from various Blu-Rays, Including TRON: Legacy, and imported it into Audacity no problem. But because the files are so big, it takes forever to import them.


I can hear some bass distortion when I play Tron: Legacy. I haven't watched the 3D blu-ray yet. But the 2D blu-ray really gives off some heavy distortion right around the end with the dog fight with their flying vehicles.
A couple of other people have also experienced heavy distortion too.
A lot of us doesn't believe that it's supposed to sound that way either. There's some debate about it on several forums.

Do you get bass distortion?
Without a subwoofer. Watching with a subwoofer seems to distract people from the distortion and blind people.

There is some obvious distortion in the score for TRON: Legacy, but thats on purpose. As for the overall track having distortion? I never had a problem with it. People who have heard the distortion may have been because theirs speakers arnt working right, or maybe not placed properly, or not calibration. Or maybe even the bass in their equalization is too high. It could be a number of problems.

I personally spent 2 weeks making sure my speaker placement and equalization was perfect.


That's wonderful news!
I'm looking forward to the graphics updates.

Yeah, Im curious to see how they update the Black Hole! And I most certainly cannot wait for TRON 3!

DAKoftheOTA
07-27-2013, 02:43 AM
This "distortion" in Legacy - is it the entire scene when they're being chased before they reach the portal? I'm THIS CLOSE to popping in my Blu-ray to hear this so-called "distortion"

hack3rman
07-27-2013, 03:13 AM
Since we've been talking about TRON: Legacy and 7.1, I thought id post this video. Its a behind the scenes look at the sound design for TRON: Legacy and they even talk about some of the advantages and challenges of mixing in 7.1.

Heres the link to the video...
SoundWorks Collection - The Sound of TRON LEGACY (http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/tronlegacy)

If you like it then you should defiantly check out the rest of their videos. The whole website is dedicated to going behind the scenes for Sound/Music design for film. They even have an interesting video for Walt Disney Imagineering for the Parks, where they go into talking about a 44.2 surround setup! 0.o

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-27-2013, 03:26 AM
There is some obvious distortion in the score for TRON: Legacy, but thats on purpose.

No. Not the score. This is the only thing people say.

The sound effects.

No equilization settings. No extra settings either.
And it's not speaker placement. Or even cheap speakers.


This "distortion" in Legacy - is it the entire scene when they're being chased before they reach the portal? I'm THIS CLOSE to popping in my Blu-ray to hear this so-called "distortion"

Yes, this scene.

On so many forums people say that they can hear the distortion and even theaters have had their speakers blown numerous times showing this film.

ArcSoft Decoder has updated to v1.1.0.9 recently so I'm going to do extensive ripping and testing to prove this.
Also need to get the 3D version back from my friend to compare differences.

DAKoftheOTA
07-27-2013, 06:13 PM
The official Blu-ray review is here, and I couldn't be more pleased

Oblivion Blu-ray (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Oblivion-Blu-ray/63492/#Review)

Isolated M83 Score (HD): The film's isolated score, presented in 24-bit/96kHz Dolby TrueHD 5.1 surround. :D

hack3rman
07-27-2013, 07:11 PM
No. Not the score. This is the only thing people say.

The sound effects.

No equilization settings. No extra settings either.
And it's not speaker placement. Or even cheap speakers.



On so many forums people say that they can hear the distortion and even theaters have had their speakers blown numerous times showing this film.

ArcSoft Decoder has updated to v1.1.0.9 recently so I'm going to do extensive ripping and testing to prove this.
Also need to get the 3D version back from my friend to compare differences.

Well I haven't had any problems with speaker distortion, both at my apartment or any of the 6 times I saw it in theaters (Including IMAX).

And I dont think the 7.1 track on the 3D disc is any different than the 2D disc. I've watched them both before and dont remember any difference.

---------- Post added at 02:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ----------


The official Blu-ray review is here, and I couldn't be more pleased

Oblivion Blu-ray (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Oblivion-Blu-ray/63492/#Review)

Isolated M83 Score (HD): The film's isolated score, presented in 24-bit/96kHz Dolby TrueHD 5.1 surround. :D

YEA! So not only is Universal actually willing to give us the complete score, but its also in Audiophile High Quality! I cant wait!

I just wish Disney and Daft Punk would do this for TRON: Legacy. I understand why they don't though. Its some legal agreement between Daft Punk and Disney, or something like that.

DAKoftheOTA
07-27-2013, 07:30 PM
I just wish Disney and Daft Punk would do this for TRON: Legacy. I understand why they don't though. Its some legal agreement between Daft Punk and Disney, or something like that.

I blame Disney. I think that's the only explanation we need.

"What's the problem here?"
"Disney"

hack3rman
07-27-2013, 07:42 PM
I blame Disney. I think that's the only explanation we need.

"What's the problem here?"
"Disney"

Disney gets blamed for a lot of things.

Actually Daft Punk is the reason there is no isolated track on the Blu-Ray. According to Joseph Kosinski in a interview, he had asked Daft Punk about the idea of having an iso score on the Blu-Ray and they said no.

DAKoftheOTA
07-27-2013, 07:48 PM
Disney gets blamed for a lot of things.

Actually Daft Punk is the reason there is no isolated track on the Blu-Ray. According to Joseph Kosinski in a interview, he had asked Daft Punk about the idea of having an iso score on the Blu-Ray and they said no.


<a href="http://imgur.com/iZevwqu">

SHOCKING!!!

chiops
07-27-2013, 11:11 PM
I know its not a review of the isolated score, but FILM TRACKS has given the soundtrack 2/5.


http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/oblivion.html

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-28-2013, 03:51 AM
Daft Punk said no.

That's kind of snobby of them.
I don't see why they would object to it.
Is the money from Blu-ray sales different than CD sales?
Kosinski should have just outright bought them off entirely and released with it with iso score, anyway.

DAKoftheOTA
07-28-2013, 04:00 AM
I know its not a review of the isolated score, but FILM TRACKS has given the soundtrack 2/5.


http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/oblivion.html

This is the very site that rips Zimmer every single time a new score of his is released. I loathe that place and almost NEVER go there. And critics will be critics, clawing at every score they can. I'd like to see someone from that site attempt at composing a major blockbuster and then having their work reviewed.

Oblivion's score was interesting enough to have it's own iso track, no? Surely there must be some reason.....

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-28-2013, 06:23 AM
Critics are overrated.
I think critics should be criticized by professional critics.

And then make a DVD with an accompanying commentary track.
In mono.

I'm really looking forward to watching this movie with just the iso score.
I'm hoping this becomes a trend and that the people involved have no say (I'M LOOKING AT YOU FACELESS PUNKS!)

antovolk
07-28-2013, 02:40 PM
Guessing no-one posted this yet?

Hopefully will upload the TrueHD file and possibly a Dolby Headphone mix tonight/tomorrow if not...

hack3rman
07-28-2013, 03:48 PM
Guessing no-one posted this yet?

Hopefully will upload the TrueHD file and possibly a Dolby Headphone mix tonight/tomorrow if not...

Sweet! I'm looking forward to the TrueHD file! Hopefully we'll get some sheets too so we can get some slates if there not already part of the bluray.

DAKoftheOTA
07-28-2013, 04:30 PM
Guessing no-one posted this yet?

Once again, this still has not been released. AUGUST SIXTH (6TH) everybody. Nine (9) days to go still

antovolk
07-28-2013, 05:42 PM
Yes it has - been on sale at DVDWorldUSA.com for the past week. Same happens with every big release thanks to a loophole which allows US DVDs to be sold overseas early.

foxtown
07-28-2013, 05:47 PM
Once again, this still has not been released. AUGUST SIXTH (6TH) everybody. Nine (9) days to go still

IF you are talking about (online)stores, you are right.


Yes it has - been on sale at DVDWorldUSA.com for the past week. Same happens with every big release thanks to a loophole which allows US DVDs to be sold overseas early.

Even there it's only for Pre-Order but the Bluray is available since Wednesday in the internet... google it.

antovolk
07-28-2013, 05:52 PM
Looks like they put it back on pre-order, I definitely got an email from them at the start of the week that it was in stock...

Anyway, yes the full BD is out there, and I'm still planning to.upload in next 24hrs.

DjawadiFan
07-28-2013, 06:56 PM
Only the Blu-ray for digital download available out there and i get this 3 days ago, but the original release no one out until August 6th..

DAKoftheOTA
07-28-2013, 06:59 PM
Looks like they put it back on pre-order, I definitely got an email from them at the start of the week that it was in stock...

Anyway, yes the full BD is out there, and I'm still planning to.upload in next 24hrs.

Well are you talking Blu-ray or DVD? Cause there's a HUGE difference

foxtown
07-28-2013, 07:01 PM
Well are you talking Blu-ray or DVD? Cause there's a HUGE difference

Bluray, the whole time. Nobody said anything about a DVD...

DAKoftheOTA
07-28-2013, 08:03 PM
Bluray, the whole time. Nobody said anything about a DVD...


Yes it has - been on sale at DVDWorldUSA.com for the past week. Same happens with every big release thanks to a loophole which allows US DVDs to be sold overseas early.

DVD is the key word here

theeaglesfan005
07-28-2013, 08:34 PM
Disney gets blamed for a lot of things.

Actually Daft Punk is the reason there is no isolated track on the Blu-Ray. According to Joseph Kosinski in a interview, he had asked Daft Punk about the idea of having an iso score on the Blu-Ray and they said no.

This doesn't seem like DP at all... they like their fans

It's a Disney thing imo.... Have any Disney movies ever had an iso score?

hack3rman
07-28-2013, 08:39 PM
This doesn't seem like DP at all... they like their fans

It's a Disney thing imo.... Have any Disney movies ever had an iso score?

Its not a Disney thing surprisingly... At least in this case.

And Yes they have had iso scores. I can only think of 2 though. They had a iso score for Randy Newman score for A Bug's Life on one of the special edition DVD's, and a iso score for Danny Elfman score to Meet the Robinson on Blu-Ray.

antovolk
07-28-2013, 10:38 PM
Uploading TrueHD track (2.26GB) now, starting to work on Dolby Headphone MP3 encode as well.

---------- Post added at 02:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:50 PM ----------

They put out BDs early as well, like TDKR for instance...

---------- Post added at 03:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:51 PM ----------

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/oblivion-2013-m83-complete-score-5-1-a-138112/#post2407176

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-29-2013, 01:32 AM
Once again, this still has not been released. AUGUST SIXTH (6TH) everybody. Nine (9) days to go still

Well, the full blu-ray (1:1 copy) is available to download all over the internet.
But it looks like antovolk already covered that. ;)

Heck, I just finished downloading the full blu-ray disc overnight!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-29-2013, 03:16 AM
I know I posted in the other threads about the bit depth, but might as well post here in case someone comes here first before the other threads...

Taken from other post(s)...



To all wondering about Oblivion and the bit depth:

I downloaded a full disc remux (1:1 copy).
I used eac3to to transcode the TrueHD to WAV.

eac3to reports:

eac3to v3.27
command line: eac3to "F:\JDownloads\Oblivion\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00800.mpls" 8: TrueHD.wav
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 6 audio tracks, 5 subtitle tracks, 2:04:42, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 20 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 7.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
4: DTS, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48kHz
5: DTS, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48kHz
6: AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB
8: TrueHD/AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 96kHz
(embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48kHz)
9: Subtitle (PGS), English
10: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
11: Subtitle (PGS), French
12: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
13: Subtitle (PGS), French
[a08] Extracting audio track number 8...
[a08] Extracting TrueHD stream...
[a08] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a08] Writing WAV...
[a08] Creating file "TrueHD.wav"...
[a08] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 18 bits.
[a08] Caution: The WAV file is bigger than 4GB. (WARNING)
[a08] Some WAV readers might not be able to handle this file correctly. (WARNING)
Video track 2 contains 179395 frames.
eac3to processing took 23 minutes, 56 seconds.
Done.

So it's actually 18 bits and not 24. Or even 20.

I know a lot of you are using Foobar with the DVD-Audio Watermark Protection detector plugin.
But that's an experimental plugin. Development has stopped and no further progress or updates were made on the TrueHD decoding.
I suppose no one over at the HydrogenAudio forums invested too much time into testing it with TrueHD tracks? :itsamystery:
If Foobar is giving you 24 bit depth, it's reading the container flag.

It is stored in a 24 bit container only to preserve anything higher than 16 bit depth.

HDCD works in the same fashion.

:doc: WAV size of decoded TrueHD is 12GB.

Converting to FLAC now to see final file size in FLAC.
eac3to uses -8 for compression size by default.

EDIT1: On a side note, it was nice to see there was no gaps or overlapping sequences.
eac3to is recommended for any conversion from the source because it can accurately detect any overlaps/gaps and correct it so it will be perfect. There are several discs I have that when I remux or convert, it reports overlaps/gaps and needs correction.
MakeMKV does the same when remuxing to MKV.

EDIT2:
Update: FLAC size= 2.3GB.
eac3to log from WAV to FLAC

eac3to v3.27
command line: eac3to TrueHD.wav Oblivion.flac
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WAV, 5.1 channels, 2:04:42, 18/24 bits, 13824kbps, 96kHz
Reading WAV...
Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
Creating file "Oblivion.flac"...
The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 18 bits.
eac3to processing took 27 minutes, 1 second.
Done.

jarjar1
05-13-2015, 06:23 AM
Does anyone have working links to the 5.1 audio version?

Xtreme512
05-14-2015, 04:59 PM
I already sent the link to people who wanted it... So if anyone wants it, just PM me for the link.

Oblivion Isolated Score. Its a direct rip from lossless TrueHD 18-Bit, 96kHz source to lossless flac without any degradation of quality at all. Yes its 6ch.

jarjar1
05-15-2015, 06:46 AM
YAY! Thank you Xtreme512!