Since this show got the greenlight by Disney recently, I felt it was okay to start this thread and discuss it.

I love tat Cory and Topanga are part of the main cast because that just means they'll have a good amount of focus on them like the original show, which was centered around Cory. Feeny's in the Pilot episode. But its unknown if he'll actually be part of the cast. I want Eric, Shawn, Amy, Alan, Morgan, and even Jack and Rachael to appear here and there as I doubt they'll be part of the cast. Hope I'm wrong on that. It'd be awesome of Fred Savage could appear in an episode like he did with the original show.
I hope the setting is more or less the same as it relates to the Matthews home, the school, college, and the hang out place. In other words, I want Cory's home to mostly remain the same. I'd want the school to be the same old John Adams High, the college should be Pennbrooke, and the hang out place should go back to being Chubby's (it was changed to Piglet's or something like that in the BMW episode, Things Change. Considering the theme of that episode, I understand why that happened).

What I don't like is that the show's a part of Disney. I don't have any real issue with Disney. Just hope they don't screw it up. The reason I want the show to be part of ABC is because that is where the Boy Meets World was as it started airing during ABC's TGIF schedule. It'd be great if they can resurrect that block and add this show to it. On the other hand, since this is currently the only show to be a sequel to a TGIF show, I kinda wanna see other shows that could fit a Disney version of a TGIF block in hopes that Disney will have a TGIF schedule of their own showcasing shows like Girl Meets World. That's just my personal wish though.

I was a big of fan of Boy Meets World growing up, so I'm quite excited about this. I kind of feel the same with it being on Disney, but I guess we'll have to let things run its course first and then decide where to go from there.

Even though the show seems to be well-grounded, it still has some big shoes to fill.

I can agree with that.

I found Boy Meets World unique for some obvious reasons:
1. The show revolved around one kid, Cory and it was him who learned a valuable lesson in every episode. Sure, there's some instances where it wasn't just about him and where other characters learned lessons.
2. Every lesson in the show applied to real life.
3. Every TV show from that era that had a lesson had its repetitiveness and predictability. Like Full House or Family Matters for example. THose shows had the same exactly lines form the same characters in every episodes and the same music which let you know when the lesson was gonna be coming up and when "the talk" was over. Not that any of this is bad. Those were great shows and I'm glad I was able to see him back in the day. But Boy Meets World was able to apply "the talk" without the same lines from the same characters, the predictable background tune and at times, was even able to provide the lessons without "the talk".


What all the shows from that era had was the evolution of all the characters. Today's shows has no lessons or if they do, they're not told the same way or not valuable. As for evolution, I'm not sure. If there are any shows today with evolving characters, the evolutionary process isn't at the same pace as these iconic shows of the past. Seems to me though like the characters are more or less, the same. For the most part, at least. But that could just be me.

Not trying to knock today's shows as I happen to like many of the shows currently airing.

Both Full House and Family Matters were great shows. And yes, TV shows of today are certainly a lot different, but it comes with the territory and the changing times. Even if today's shows work in a different level than those of a decade ago, there are always morals to be learned from them.

For the most part they're there to entertain us; I don't think we should be basing our morals off of them, more so now than before. But that's just me, of course.

Both Full House and Family Matters were great shows. And yes, TV shows of today are certainly a lot different, but it comes with the territory and the changing times. Even if today's shows work in a different level than those of a decade ago, there are always morals to be learned from them.

For the most part they're there to entertain us; I don't think we should be basing our morals off of them, more so now than before. But that's just me, of course.

I can partially agree. I just feel past shows had better and more valuable lessons than the morals of today's shows. Today's show are more focused on killing and other kinds of violence compared to Boy Meets World and shows of that era. Those were shows the whole family could enjoy while today's shows are so family oriented. Even though the times have changed, Boy Meets World type lesson learning shows still have a place in today's society and always will. There's no replacement for learning lessons in any society whether it be by a TV show or any other way.

Not only is too much violence all the time on TV, even the news as it's mostly consisted of kidnappings and someone killing someone else and stuff like that, but also in movies and even games too. Even kid's shows today like Spongebob are pretty violent for a show that's geared towards that age. To be accurate though, it's always been that way. Though Power Rangers had lessons like the value of teamwork, helping others, overcoming your fear, etc which are definitely good lessons for kids and others to learn, it was a violent show.

As far as us being entertained, you're right. They are there to entertain us. But BMW and those types of shows proved that we could be entertained and learn at the same time while today's shows are just hoping to entertain us. Although I love today's shows as I mentioned, I don't know how anyone can be entertained by so much of what's on TV now.

I hate to bring up this point. But most American media consists of whites. They're usually in the main roles and end up living while the few blacks have lesser roles and end up being killed most of the time. And a lot of times, it's the whites who are good while the blacks are bad. These just known and proven facts. I know it's not real and just "entertainment". But personally, I feel disrespected by that. I doubt I'm the only one who does. It's easy for some white person to say if you don't like it, change the channel. But if things were reversed and it was whites with lesser roles who get killed most of the time, they'd see it and feel disrespected just like me and many others. That's also a fact. And I hope I' not starting an argument by stating this point because that's not my intention at all.

Another thing is usually, it's women who are in peril and waiting to be saved by men, who are the dominate and heroic ones. Revenge and Buffy are just two of the very few exceptions and that's one of the reasons I appreciate them. In fact, I always view those shows as being similar for the reason that it's a female, albeit a white female being the lead character and the main hero. This is why I view and describe Revenge as "being Buffy with the Slayers, vampires, and other monsters/demons".

What my point comes down to is I think people want those kinds of shows like BMW to come back because they're tired of seeing violence all the time, especially parents and teachers who have to deal with kids because kids are influenced by the media and emulate what they see. It was recently in the news how a kid killed his sister by body slamming her and beating her, which is what you see on wrestling. Again, I'm not knocking it as I also happen to be a wrestling fan. It was also a big deal on the news about how moves form Mortal Kombat was emulated. People can say it's the parents' fault and they need to keep their kids under control and maybe to a degree ,that's true. But I think if the media was more family-friendly, maybe the violence in the world would be lessened, at least as far as kids and even some teens emulating what see on TV is concerned. Fact is, what those in the media business care about is viewers, which generates ratings, which generate money. As long as they have that, they don't care if someone is injured or gets killed, even by accident due to someone emulating what they saw on TV. They're emulating TV characters who they like and look up to as role models. I mean, imagine of your friend or a member of your family or you kid if you have one or in the futute, ever have one was killed or injured because they emulated what they thought was cool about their favorite characters did. How'd you feel?

And I don't think that's just my opinion. If it is though, I'm ok with that.

I truly don't want to start a back-and-forth because I'm not interested in entering a debate about morals; they are individual to each. But I feel compelled to address your arguments, with deference, of course...


I can partially agree. I just feel past shows had better and more valuable lessons than the morals of today's shows. Today's show are more focused on killing and other kinds of violence compared to Boy Meets World and shows of that era. Those were shows the whole family could enjoy while today's shows are so family oriented. Even though the times have changed, Boy Meets World type lesson learning shows still have a place in today's society and always will. There's no replacement for learning lessons in any society whether it be by a TV show or any other way.

I don't think that saying the shows of today are only focused on killing is a correct argument, because the fact of the matter is that violence has existed since the dawn of man. I understand that shows back then had a higher product value and were indeed mostly family-oriented, but that doesn't make them flawless - don't let yourself get blinded by nostalgia. TV has changed as drastically as time has, and most of today's shows are a derivative of that; you have something for everybody just like it was a decade or two ago, or more ago. Not all of today's TV shows are intent on showing blood, steel, and skin on the screen, even though that obviously makes things easier, and many go down that route almost on a daily basis. I would like to think people know how to differentiate good from bad and tell right from wrong when something of questionable content is shown to them for the first time. Like the first time, for example, you were offered drugs and you said "no"; it wasn't because Nancy Reagan told you to in Diff'rent Strokes. Sure, that had an impact; but in reality it was because you knew to discern and understood the message, and applied it. Shows today, regardless of content, offer similar, if not the same type of messages so long as you use that knowledge.


Not only is too much violence all the time on TV, even the news as it's mostly consisted of kidnappings and someone killing someone else and stuff like that, but also in movies and even games too. Even kid's shows today like Spongebob are pretty violent for a show that's geared towards that age. To be accurate though, it's always been that way. Though Power Rangers had lessons like the value of teamwork, helping others, overcoming your fear, etc which are definitely good lessons for kids and others to learn, it was a violent show.

The same can be said about Regular Show, Adventure Time, The Amazing World of Gumball, and even old-school cartoons like Ed, Edd n Eddy, The Powerpuff Girls, and Cow & Chicken. And what about Johnny Bravo, Rocko's Modern Life, and Animaniacs? The Flinstones, for instance, was mostly a cartoon oriented for adults, most of the Looney Tunes shorts also in fact were oriented for an adult audience. These types of shows are written by grown-ups, so there will always be underlying adult themes throughout - it's an undeniable truth. Back in the day, for many kids, whenever and however a sublime topic was presented flew over their heads because it was intangible, but fast-forward 10 years later and that no longer is the case.


As far as us being entertained, you're right. They are there to entertain us. But BMW and those types of shows proved that we could be entertained and learn at the same time while today's shows are just hoping to entertain us. Although I love today's shows as I mentioned, I don't know how anyone can be entertained by so much of what's on TV now.

That is true, a TV show can be both entertaining AND educative, after all that in essence is the goal. I simply believe you can take a nugget of knowledge from them, but not entirely base your perception around them, otherwise you'll be living in pleasantville.


I hate to bring up this point. But most American media consists of whites. They're usually in the main roles and end up living while the few blacks have lesser roles and end up being killed most of the time. And a lot of times, it's the whites who are good while the blacks are bad. These just known and proven facts. I know it's not real and just "entertainment". But personally, I feel disrespected by that. I doubt I'm the only one who does. It's easy for some white person to say if you don't like it, change the channel. But if things were reversed and it was whites with lesser roles who get killed most of the time, they'd see it and feel disrespected just like me and many others. That's also a fact. And I hope I' not starting an argument by stating this point because that's not my intention at all.

See? This is a type of comment you'd expect 30 or so years ago, possibly more. To tell you the truth, and without intending to offend you, it comes as ignorant. As I've stated, times have changed; and yes, while there still is a hint of racism here and there, you do see plenty of black characters playing important roles throughout many TV shows. And you have to take into account that many TV shows these days don't usually follow the "main lead" formula, as you'll often have two or more characters that, depending on the episode, will serve as the lead or have a very important role alongside the lead. And even when these shows do in fact have solo protagonists, they're not short of also having a deuteragonist and even a tritagonist for good measure. TV shows nowadays are very diverse and varied, and it's not JUST these days, as they have been since way before, setting trends and making history. So I don't think is fair to always fall back on the "black card" when black actors have come such a long way ever since the golden age. And sure, anyone can argue that they're still typecast and stereotyped today, but many of those actors actually like playing those types of roles. And this argument applies not only to black actors, but also to other, quote, unquote, "minorities".


Another thing is usually, it's women who are in peril and waiting to be saved by men, who are the dominate and heroic ones. Revenge and Buffy are just two of the very few exceptions and that's one of the reasons I appreciate them. In fact, I always view those shows as being similar for the reason that it's a female, albeit a white female being the lead character and the main hero. This is why I view and describe Revenge as "being Buffy with the Slayers, vampires, and other monsters/demons".

See, this here is another argument I respectfully have to disagree with. There are plenty of estrogen-ridden TV shows out there where women have quite a number of roles. The damsel in distress archetype is no longer true.


What my point comes down to is I think people want those kinds of shows like BMW to come back because they're tired of seeing violence all the time, especially parents and teachers who have to deal with kids because kids are influenced by the media and emulate what they see. It was recently in the news how a kid killed his sister by body slamming her and beating her, which is what you see on wrestling. Again, I'm not knocking it as I also happen to be a wrestling fan. It was also a big deal on the news about how moves form Mortal Kombat was emulated. People can say it's the parents' fault and they need to keep their kids under control and maybe to a degree ,that's true. But I think if the media was more family-friendly, maybe the violence in the world would be lessened, at least as far as kids and even some teens emulating what see on TV is concerned. Fact is, what those in the media business care about is viewers, which generates ratings, which generate money. As long as they have that, they don't care if someone is injured or gets killed, even by accident due to someone emulating what they saw on TV. They're emulating TV characters who they like and look up to as role models. I mean, imagine of your friend or a member of your family or you kid if you have one or in the futute, ever have one was killed or injured because they emulated what they thought was cool about their favorite characters did. How'd you feel?

And I don't think that's just my opinion. If it is though, I'm ok with that.

Now, with all that said, you keep pointing the finger at violence, it is the clear denominator of your gripes, and I sincerely can only retort with, "such is life". I mean, yes, I do agree with you that violence permeates mostly everything within the mediums you listed, but like I said: we must learn to tell right from wrong from a very young age. You mention kids being influenced, but that's because parents allow this to happen, and not because it's something they can't stop, because they can, but because they're lazily permissive. Most kids these days pretty much tell their parents what to do, and many of this grown-ass individuals allow it to happen, continuing to allow them to do whatever they please. Parenthood isn't easy, but that's no excuse to raise a good-for-nothing. Many parents these days also think sending their kids to school is all that it takes to being a parent, when they themselves need to teach them all the necessary values that will help and guide them through life - the idea that schools need to both instruct AND educate is an asinine one. Principles are taught at home slowly as children grow, not between two or three semesters.

What I'm trying to say is that violence is unrelentingly never-ending, and like we can't cover the sky with one hand, we can't stop violence from happening. What must be done is teaching children from a very young age the differences between good and bad and right from wrong, cement some really strong values and reinforce them with love, and the rest will ride its way out.

I'll watch the first episode and then i'll decide if I want to continue watching.