crazyackleholic
06-12-2013, 08:23 PM
Bruce Broughton
Young Sherlock Holmes (Complete Score)
1985/2003 (Intrada)



70 tracks, TRT: 2:15:14, FLAC



http://www.packupload.com/9W6ELIDURY0

Note: This release has been completely restored and remastered to ensure highest possible audio quality. Entire film score is included plus bonus tracks, all mastered in FLAC but as a warning, the sources are not true lossless however it's the best currently available.

Lockdown
06-12-2013, 08:27 PM
I provided you with true lossless though..

crazyackleholic
06-12-2013, 08:28 PM
I provided you with true lossless though..
I know but I just saw it, right after I started this thread. I'll get through the Intrada set and re-upload this release in true lossless soon.

Lockdown
06-12-2013, 08:29 PM
I sent you both the Recording Sessions in lossless, as well as the Intrada Release.

Arial
06-12-2013, 08:36 PM
Note: This release has been completely restored and remastered to ensure highest possible audio quality. Entire film score is included plus bonus tracks, all mastered in FLAC but as a warning, the sources are not true lossless however it's the best currently available.

I mean no harm, and I don't know your work but I'd rather say what I did exactly and remain humble about it. "The best quality possible", I have it when the sessions plays on my Hi-Fi with my old sampler's high filter (I rarely use it !) and bass pushed further. The result gives a warm and neutral sound with marvelous stage. So the best quality possible, you'll get it remastering the sessions and the missing stuff once converted to 32-Bit/XXXKhz and target a tasty result.

crazyackleholic
06-12-2013, 08:38 PM
I sent you both the Recording Sessions in lossless, as well as the Intrada Release.
I'm also aware of the recording sessions but they are all mastered in WAV. Converting them to FLAC will take too much time and trouble, and it isn't worth plus it will lose some quality, not much but enough to make the entire time taken just to do this wasted time.

Arial
06-12-2013, 08:39 PM
... Converting them to FLAC will take too much time and trouble, and it isn't worth plus it will lose some quality, not much but enough to make the entire time taken just to do this wasted time.

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crazyackleholic
06-12-2013, 08:46 PM
I mean no harm, and I don't know your work but I'd rather say what I did exactly and remain humble about it. "The best quality possible", I have it when it plays on my Hi-Fi with my old sampler's high filter (I rarely use it !) and bass pushed further. The result gives a warm and neutral sound with marvelous stage. So the best quality possible, you'll get it remastering the sessions and the missing stuff in 32-Bit/XXXKhz and target a tasty result.

I know that. Also, I've taken FLAC versions of this score after I finished converting this one and compared both of them. They sound very similar but sure the lossy one lost some quality, though it didn't affect the listening too much.

Arial
06-12-2013, 08:51 PM
I don't understand what you say, overall.

There's no loss converting wav to Flac btw. Once Flac decompressed to Wav, there's not a bit of sonical difference - ie, it's the Same.

crazyackleholic
06-12-2013, 08:53 PM
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It's VERY VERY different converting MP3 -> FLAC and WAV -> FLAC 'cuz when converting MP3 to FLAC it kinda "adds", for lack of a better word, quality to the song but when you convert WAV to FLAC it loses quality, making the quality loss more perceptible than the "added" quality. At least this is how I see it.

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There's no loss converting wav to Flac btw.

I already tried and the result of the converted WAV to FLAC was terrible compared to the converted MP3 to FLAC.

Arial
06-12-2013, 08:55 PM
Your equipment has a problem then.

crazyackleholic
06-12-2013, 08:56 PM
Your equipment has a problem then.

I don't know about THAT.

Arial
06-12-2013, 08:57 PM
... And your few knowledge should scare anyone interested in a good remastered set. Again, I mean no harm.

crazyackleholic
06-12-2013, 09:17 PM
... And your few knowledge should scare anyone interested in a good remastered set. Again, I mean no harm.

By "best quality", I mean best quality of this release. There are no other complete score for this movie in higher bitrate. After A LOT of researches I can assure you that.

Arial
06-12-2013, 09:30 PM
The best quality of this release can only be the original.

... I used to do "remasters" much more listenable than the original albums, but unfortunately I degraded them in the same time... It takes time to learn. Also, I use to put the word remaster into quotes. I could claim a couple of true remasters though.

DaviD^8
06-13-2013, 12:03 AM
MP3 to FLAC.

(http://picturepush.com/public/13304696)

Amanda
06-13-2013, 12:38 AM
You cannot add quality once lost. Mp3 is a lossy source, and data is already missing. Converting to flac does not add that back, it further degrades the source. Flac is a lossless format, as is wav. You can convert one to the other with no data loss, hence the term lossless. It takes almost no time at all to convert. Just set the settings on your converter, inport the files and there you have it. Easy peasy. Mastering the sound only is the easy part for this. Tracks will need to be combined and sorted out. Many are just inserts and alternates. They need to be sorted. Nothing is in chronological order. They need to be re-ordered. THEN the sound adjustments. There are no bonus tracks on the sessions, just inserts, partial tracks and alternate takes. I say this so you are more precise in what is offered here. So folks know this is not substantially different from what has already been offered. The Intrada set has no bonus tracks either. It is the complete score, just presented as longer, combined tracks as opposed to the sessions. NEITHER is an official release. The Intrada was a very limited promo, never for sale, and the sessions are bootlegged, a leak. The way uyou present your statements about this are very misleading to anyone not familiar with the two releases.

Phideas1
06-13-2013, 01:06 AM
YEAH! So there!

(next week Amanda will explain where babies come from)

Twostepsfromhell
06-13-2013, 02:07 AM
Thanks

Arial
06-13-2013, 04:09 AM
You cannot add quality once lost. Mp3 is a lossy source, and data is already missing. Converting to flac does not add that back, it further degrades the source. Flac is a lossless format, as is wav. You can convert one to the other with no data loss, hence the term lossless. It takes almost no time at all to convert. Just set the settings on your converter, inport the files and there you have it. Easy peasy. Mastering the sound only is the easy part for this. Tracks will need to be combined and sorted out. Many are just inserts and alternates. They need to be sorted. Nothing is in chronological order. They need to be re-ordered. THEN the sound adjustments. There are no bonus tracks on the sessions, just inserts, partial tracks and alternate takes. I say this so you are more precise in what is offered here. So folks know this is not substantially different from what has already been offered. The Intrada set has no bonus tracks either. It is the complete score, just presented as longer, combined tracks as opposed to the sessions. NEITHER is an official release. The Intrada was a very limited promo, never for sale, and the sessions are bootlegged, a leak. The way uyou present your statements about this are very misleading to anyone not familiar with the two releases.

Hehe. Wew... Thanks. A bunch of people who don't touch sound at all still get it.

Amanda, did you see my post about the track orders here: http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/b-broughton-young-sherlock-holmes-complete-score-135408/#post2372816 ?

Threads get lost very quick these days.

You know what, I may handle that a bit later. This session set has not been preserved on my HD for nothing I guess... I have so few things. But I haven't seen the film since... I've seen it in a theatre !




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...

(next week Amanda will explain where babies come from)

I'd rather like to know where some adults come from.

Phideas1
06-13-2013, 04:26 AM
The adults that can't put together a comprehensible sentence using proper spelling and punctuation tend to come from Neptune. The atmosphere is thinner and thus suffering from brain stem damage they type with epileptic spatulate tails. This causes a great many typos and raucous laughter (which only increases their asthmatic propensities).

Arial
06-13-2013, 04:29 AM
Some also come from non-English countries though (count me in).

That's not what the topic is about anyway.

Phideas1
06-13-2013, 05:31 AM
Then why did you ask, you Neptunian, you?

Arial
06-13-2013, 05:40 AM
Haha.

I guess I'm too fascinated by talking pets.

Amanda
06-13-2013, 05:58 AM
Oddly, if you discard alternate or partial tracks, AND add Waxing Elizabeth, the sessions run only90 minutes. The Intrada promo runs 97 minutes. So, likely some of the session alternate takes must be used?

Arial
06-13-2013, 06:13 AM
Oddly, if you discard alternate or partial tracks, AND add Waxing Elizabeth, the sessions run only90 minutes. The Intrada promo runs 97 minutes. So, likely some of the session alternate takes must be used?


This won't be hard to figure out with the film soundtrack as a blueprint.

You know, most of the time I totally don't get the discussions about complete scores around here. But if and when I decide to do something about one, I figure it out within a couple of hours making as I just stated and it blows away any discussions, no matter the detail and complxity. And I rarely work on easy material like these sessions so, such questions are not big deals. ;-) Any info is still welcome though.
Mind, I won't talk about it further here, drawing attraction is not what I like ;) ... and this is not my thread besides. I'll keep in touch with you about this. I think I'm as much interested as you are to have it in great shape.

Petros
06-13-2013, 08:40 AM
Thank you very much.

crazyackleholic
06-14-2013, 10:51 PM
You cannot add quality once lost. Mp3 is a lossy source, and data is already missing. Converting to flac does not add that back, it further degrades the source. Flac is a lossless format, as is wav. You can convert one to the other with no data loss, hence the term lossless. It takes almost no time at all to convert. Just set the settings on your converter, inport the files and there you have it. Easy peasy. Mastering the sound only is the easy part for this. Tracks will need to be combined and sorted out. Many are just inserts and alternates. They need to be sorted. Nothing is in chronological order. They need to be re-ordered. THEN the sound adjustments. There are no bonus tracks on the sessions, just inserts, partial tracks and alternate takes. I say this so you are more precise in what is offered here. So folks know this is not substantially different from what has already been offered. The Intrada set has no bonus tracks either. It is the complete score, just presented as longer, combined tracks as opposed to the sessions. NEITHER is an official release. The Intrada was a very limited promo, never for sale, and the sessions are bootlegged, a leak. The way uyou present your statements about this are very misleading to anyone not familiar with the two releases.
Sorry, I guess you're right. Btw, the "time taking" thing was my mistake. I'm VERY VERY sorry. I completely forgot to mention when I posted that that my computer is slower than a slug, when I remembered that, I tried converting in another computer and it did VERY fast, and the quality was so much better when from WAV to FLAC, sorry I didn't realized that earlier. Also, it wasn't my best line when I used the term "adding quality". I don't know what I was thinking. It's test month in my school and I'm bonkers, studying and all... Hope you all understand my mistakes in what I said, and I want you to know that if I confused labels it was COMPLETELY UNINTENTIONAL. Know that and PLEASE forgive me, if I offended anyone or mistakenly labeled any post.

xphile7777
06-24-2013, 07:03 PM
Thank you! :D

compagnon
06-27-2013, 06:48 PM
I was looking for it, very nice.
Thanks !

c�d�master88
03-14-2014, 04:43 AM
It's VERY VERY different converting MP3 -> FLAC and WAV -> FLAC 'cuz when converting MP3 to FLAC it kinda "adds", for lack of a better word, quality to the song but when you convert WAV to FLAC it loses quality, making the quality loss more perceptible than the "added" quality. At least this is how I see it.[COLOR="Silver"]


This is the first time I've heard this claim. Converting FLAC>WAV causes virtually no sonic differences. They are both lossless containers. MP3 is a lossy container so converting true lossless to lossy MP3 is going to degrade the sound, not improve it. Not to cause any trouble. Just clearing up a minor migraine I had while reading this post.

bladerunn
03-14-2014, 08:32 AM
Thank you.

Kaolin
03-14-2014, 12:24 PM
Thanks.

InsaneCrazyMad
01-26-2016, 02:19 AM
Upcoding is bad. It does not help at all to go from mp3 to FLAC. It doesn't add quality, just adds bitrate, which is not the same thing in this case.

crazyackleholic
12-06-2016, 08:20 PM
I know it's been a very long time since there was this little discussion, and I don't want to start new ones, but I feel like I should apologize to you. To all of you. I'm so sorry, guys. This thread was one of the first ones I've started here and I had... Pretty much no knowledge at all on audio quality and editing. I was very ingenuous and I didn't really knew what I was doing, I was very new to film soundtracks at the time. So I guess that I really should be apologizing and thanking you for what I have learned from all this.

Now that we're at it, I would also like to apologize for posting fake Alice in Wonderland sessions. I understand now how frustrating that must've been for many of you, and I am really sorry for that. I really didn't realize it was merely a (rather bad) re-edit of the Elfman/Burton box disc, and know that if I did, I would never have posted it. Not labeled as recording sessions anyway. Sorry for that too.

Anyway, after all that's happened, all I can do now is let you all know that I am truly very sorry for all that I have caused and that I really didn't have any true intentions. I hope you can still forgive me. Sorry again. And thank you for all you guys have taught me on here, I always end up using a lot of that! :D