ppdd
04-08-2013, 03:41 AM


Fully tagged. Credit to whoever ripped it. Found it here:

Torrent (http://www.t411.me/torrents/ni-no-kuni-wrath-of-the-white-witch-ost-way-records-33-pistes-mp3-230kbps)

Tracklist:

Disc 1

01. Ni no Kuni: Dominion of the Dark Djinn — Main Theme
02. One Fine Morning
03. Motorville
04. The Accident
05. In Loving Memory of Allie
06. Drippy
07. Magic with Oomph
08. World Map
09. Ding Dong Dell — The Cat King's Castle —
10. Al Mamoon — Court of the Cowlipha —
11. Imperial March
12. Crisis
13. Tension
14. Battle
15. Shadar, the Dark Djinn
16. A Battle with Creatures
17. Labyrinth
18. The Lead-Up to the Decisive Battle
19. The Showdown with Shadar
20. Miracle — Reunion —
21. Kokoro no Kakera (Japanese Version)

Disc 2

01. Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch — Main Theme
02. The Fairyground
03. Mummy's Tummy
04. Battle II
05. The Horror of Manna
06. Unrest
07. Blithe
08. Sorrow
09. The Zodiarchs
10. The Final Battle Against the White Witch
11. The Wrath of the White Witch
12. Kokoro no Kakera — Pieces of a Broken Heart — (English Version)

Download Kuni Wrath the White Witch Original Soundtrack zip (http://filewinds.com/nqw5lcrpz9x0/Ni_no_Kuni_-_Wrath_of_the_White_Witch_Original_Soundtrack.zip. html)

Chaos Raiden
04-08-2013, 04:54 AM
Many thanks for the find.

SuperCatMeow
04-08-2013, 05:22 AM
Thank you :)

LeatherHead333
04-08-2013, 11:07 AM
I can't recall correctly at the moment but the second CD is the part we don't have already right? I believe the first CD was released some time ago.

tangotreats
04-08-2013, 11:17 AM
Correct. CD 2 is the extra stuff recorded for the PS3 version. CD1 is the DS score. :)

nexis12
04-08-2013, 01:13 PM
Thanks.

ppdd
04-08-2013, 02:55 PM
What i don't get is why is it incomplete. Where's the Boss Theme? The Victory fanfare? The Sea Cow theme? They could easily fit the entire score in 2 CDs if they wanted. Heck the second CD is only about 30 minutes in duration. Talk about a disappointing release.

Herr Salat
04-08-2013, 03:02 PM
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mattsey
04-08-2013, 03:41 PM
Thank youu !!!

sparksterfan
04-08-2013, 08:43 PM
What i don't get is why is it incomplete. Where's the Boss Theme? The Victory fanfare? The Sea Cow theme? They could easily fit the entire score in 2 CDs if they wanted. Heck the second CD is only about 30 minutes in duration. Talk about a disappointing release.

I think it's because those themes weren't done by Hisaishi, if I remember correctly...I agree it's kind of a drag, but I still like what's there.

Thanks for the upload!

TheGazelMinistry
04-09-2013, 01:53 AM
Thank you.

Herr Salat
04-09-2013, 10:52 PM
For a better listening experience, that could very well be played in any concert hall :'D

Like tangotreats said, it's just a bonus disc of extra music for the PS3 version. I forgot about that and saw the total duration of 30 minutes of the second disc as a sign of this being a concert work-like presentation (although Hisaishi always writes with the concert hall in mind, I think). Maybe that's just what Hisaishi gave Way� Records :'D

I didn't play the game, so I'm not aware of the cues ppdd was looking for. They're probably in Bar's PS3 Gamerip (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/%5Bflac|mp3%5D-ni-no-kuni-ps3-complete-gamerip-110559/).

tangotreats
04-10-2013, 09:58 PM
This release features 100% of the orchestral score from the game. Anything else is either a) trash or b) written by somebody else and thematically derived from the music herein and therefore redundant. Far from being a disappointing release, I find it to be one of the most magnificent releases of anything this century...

...Though I do agree that making a two disc set for 86 minutes of music is just a little ludicrous... with nearly 75 minutes of empty space between those two discs, I'm sure they could've thrown some other stuff on there to please the completists...

Oh, well... no complaints from me. It's one of Hisaishi's finest, and finally all of the good stuff is available - and in the West, for a fair price. In this day and age, with the soundtrack market being in the sorry state that it is, I don't think one can ask for more.

Starfleet
04-11-2013, 01:37 AM
Thank you

Valyrious
04-11-2013, 09:22 AM
Thank you! Love this soundtrack.

HelixSundown
04-11-2013, 02:49 PM
Oh, well... no complaints from me. It's one of Hisaishi's finest, and finally all of the good stuff is available - and in the West, for a fair price. In this day and age, with the soundtrack market being in the sorry state that it is, I don't think one can ask for more.

No, I think we can ask for more. Why can't we have the full friggin soundtrack? The best BGM, which is the boss battle music, isn't even here.

Herr Salat
04-11-2013, 03:28 PM
Hisaishi wrote music that loops and works in that context, but which also functions as standalone compositions. He even wrote (and recorded) endings to the looping cues which are never heard in the game, but which are appropriate to the album environment.

DanteLectro
04-12-2013, 11:51 AM
Fully tagged. Not my rip, found it in a torrent. Credit to whoever ripped it.
Could you post a link to the torrent?

ppdd
04-12-2013, 07:13 PM
Could you post a link to the torrent?

There you go. Added it to post number 1

shadow1
04-13-2013, 11:27 AM
thx

magician369
04-18-2013, 08:45 AM
thanks

Jye
04-18-2013, 09:23 PM
Thank you!

DanteLectro
05-12-2013, 11:33 PM
This rip covers 20 KHz of the spectrum. That's not bad, but here's a higher bitrate VBR rip that covers the full 22 KHz spectrum. #gamemp3s torrent (http://www.gamemp3s.net/2013/05/11/ni-no-kuni-wrath-of-the-white-witch-original-soundtrack/).

yunalesca23
05-13-2013, 09:15 AM
hate to say, if you want the complete or full ost just download the gamerip thats posted on here:

Thread 110559

its really good and flac no less.

tangotreats
05-13-2013, 09:33 AM
Higher frequencies do not equal higher quality.

DanteLectro
05-13-2013, 04:49 PM
Higher frequencies do not equal higher quality.
Not higher frequencies, that doesn't make sense. Broader frequency range. It's also higher bitrate.

tangotreats
05-13-2013, 05:29 PM
You said that the other rip was better due to it representing higher frequencies; which is not true. Since my post, you revised yours so that it makes more sense.

Since frequency range in the lower end of the spectrum doesn't appreciably vary, "broader frequency range" is entirely synonymous with "higher frequencies" and this, regardless of terminology, is not an indicator of quality. ;)

It's an indicator of a different encoder, using different settings, and a different acoustic model. Perhaps the rip with the "broader frequency range" is the poorer quality rip because it is wasting bitrate on frequencies outside of our hearing spectrum, whereas the one with the lower range is of better quality because it's throwing away that useless information and using the conserved bits to more accurately preserve frequencies we can hear.

Never judge quality by bitrate or frequency range comparison, unless some completely obvious clanger has been committed...

In any case, the point is moot here as both rips are effectively the same bitrate; both encoded with LAME at the highest quality VBR setting. The version with the narrower range encoded by LAME 3.98, and the other by LAME 3.99. Furthermore, because of this and assuming everything else is equal, the rip with the narrower frequency range will be the superior rip for reasons stated above; namely, the lowpass filter of frequencies we can't hear, enabling the more sensible distribution of the bits that would have been wasted trying to encode them...

The argument continues to rage as to why newer versions of LAME are less heavy on the lowpass filter than their predecessors - and most people have arrived at the conclusion that it is to appease those who judge quality by looking at spectrographs instead of by listening with their ears.

Not intentionally having a pop at you, just wanting to clear up potential misconceptions that could arise from your statements. :)

DanteLectro
05-13-2013, 08:00 PM
The point you're making is sound. There are however some caveats. I didn't say "better", i said "higher quality". IMO just "higher frequencies" is misleading, "additional higher frequencies" makes sense.


both rips are effectively the same bitrate
You see, they're not. You haven't done your research there, you just compared the file sizes. ;) (I'm only comparing disc 2 because i didn't download disc 1 as it's the DS OST which i've already got.) Gamemp3s' rip is consistently higher bitrate (30 kbps on average), so there's room for that additional frequency range, while the french rip is almost exactly the same size because of bigger tags.

I've taken a small listen and predictably couldn't find an audible difference in quality. The french rip still has minute response (practically cut off flat) above 20 kHz; while gamemp3s' rip rolls off from 20 kHz to 22 kHz, that additional 2 kHz is transition band: "signals must be low-pass filtered before sampling, otherwise aliasing occurs, and, while an ideal low-pass filter would perfectly pass frequencies below 20 kHz (without attenuating them) and perfectly cut off frequencies above 20 kHz, in practice a transition band is necessary, where frequencies are partly attenuated. The wider this transition band is, the easier and more economical it is to make an anti-aliasing filter. The 44.1 kHz sampling frequency allows for a 2.05 kHz transition band." (Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/44,100_Hz)).
So because of these, the gamemp3s rip should be the more efficient and higher quality one.

I'm sure anyone would be hard pressed to find aural improvement in a FLAC over these, in a blind test. However we must not forget that ever improving and more modern codecs tend to be more and more efficient than older ones: things like the addition of quality-based true vbr to LAME; or the AAC codec itself which "was designed to be the successor of the MP3 format and it generally achieves better sound quality than MP3 at similar bit rates." (Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding) and source (http://www.telos-systems.com/techtalk/hosted/Brandenburg_mp3_aac.pdf))

I also saw you originally included "Encoding anything over 16khz, particularly if efficient compression is the intended goal, makes very little sense." in your post. "In humans, the audible range of frequencies is usually 20 to 20,000 Hz, although there is considerable variation between individuals, especially at high frequencies, where a gradual decline with age is considered normal." (Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range)) CDs, FLAC and other lossless formats intend to perfectly cover that range above 16 kHz for such reasons. And i'm pretty sure there are people with even better hearing than that (as in any other field). So on top of that come the arguments of SACD, DVD-A, higher dynamic range, ultra-wide frequency ranges in source and in all kinds of equipment down to headphones. So apparently there is sense in and demand for not only above 16 kHz but even above 20 kHz. It just requires acute hearing, focused attention, high quality source- and equipment. People still want FLACs even if they can't obviously or definitely hear the improvement, it's the case of diminishing returns.

All in all, i agree with you that comparisons can't be based just on numbers on spec sheets. I'm still of the opinion that the gamemp3s rip is higher quality, because it uses a newer (and thus presumably improved) version of the same codec, in a higher quality mode; even if however the aural difference is practically indiscernible. At the same time, it may be you who's right. And so that's why i offered it as an alternative, much like yunalesca23 who offered a FLAC/AC3 complete game rip (which is "480000Hz music" — i suppose that's sampling rate). Now that we've collectively discovered the differences, it's easier to choose, based on individual preference. :)

Red Falcon
12-22-2015, 02:41 PM
Thank You