showads
12-02-2012, 10:21 AM
Amanda (thankyou :)) has made mp3 320 files available to replace the FLAC files which caused such controversy.
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/LM8QZ1EQ/that__s_a_BIG_snake.rar_links
http://en.packupload.com/ED3K9SAFFHX

For the time being the FLAC links have now been removed.

wosinddiemaenner
12-02-2012, 10:49 AM
links are off

d-udo
12-02-2012, 11:13 AM
please add a mirror !

lord71
12-02-2012, 11:13 AM
Permission Denied. :-((

Yannis
12-02-2012, 11:15 AM
God just go on Google...in 3 minutes you will find that !!!! ( I even never D/L that cause as Collector...I know it's so easy to find...or go in News-Groups...5 minutes and you have it )
Or better search here...that has been post many times by others posters !!!! ( don't mind if is 2012 Edition...nothing as change...it's just Business of the CD companies )

d-udo
12-02-2012, 11:19 AM
Or better search here...that has been post many times by others posters !!!! ( don't mind if is 2012 Edition...nothing as change...it's just Business of the CD companies )

But not the new Intrada Edition ;)

Yannis
12-02-2012, 11:29 AM
Where are the difference...is write Intrada in the cover...nothing else....( maybe a new cover ...yes )...but is site who have just covers...easy to find to....

---------- Post added at 12:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 PM ----------

If I was you...I will be satisfy with this...
Thread 86339
What do you think Intrada Edition give more...
Mind I don't check the link...I tell you I don't D/L those kind of soundtracks....
As Amanda say in another post of Conan..."it's Time to nearly change the Score" of Conan....:) ( or something similar )

tangotreats
12-02-2012, 11:35 AM
Are you kidding? The new edition - which has been hotly anticipated for the best part of two years - is the first complete release of the score and features a remastering and extensive remix from the original 24-track tapes, making the very best possible presentation of these less-than-spotless recordings. The original release (made by Varese, twenty years ago,) by comparison, is notoriously bad featuring atrocious sound quality and an uneven mix.

d-udo
12-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Are you kidding? The new edition - which has been hotly anticipated for the best part of two years - is the first complete release of the score and features a remastering and extensive remix from the original 24-track tapes, making the very best possible presentation of these less-than-spotless recordings. The original release (made by Varese, twenty years ago,) by comparison, is notoriously bad featuring atrocious sound quality and an uneven mix.

Don't feed the troll !! ;) ;)

Calidoran
12-02-2012, 11:39 AM
"This file has been identified as a copyright protected work and cannot be distributed using MediaFire"

That was fast...

d-udo
12-02-2012, 11:42 AM
"This file has been identified as a copyright protected work and cannot be distributed using MediaFire"

That was fast...

Ironically Part CTB1B and CTB2C still working ! :)

Yannis
12-02-2012, 11:48 AM
Yes OK D/L Conan the Barbarian from Intrada...( it's you right anyway )...I don't know why I speak...D-udo...before call me a "troll"...think a bit !!!
Why I speak..I'm seek and I speak about something who don't interesting me anyway....( I'm not at all interested by any new release or old of Conan the Barbarian...as a good troll I'am...I prefer what I like )
Good day to all...Viva Intrada !!!!

---------- Post added at 12:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:45 PM ----------

Ironically Part CTB1B and CTB2C still working ! Great...maybe is the best part !!! hahahaha !!!!

d-udo
12-02-2012, 11:50 AM
I'm not at all interested by any new release or old of Conan the Barbarian...as a good troll I'am...I prefer what I like )
!

So, why then are you posting here ?
And when you are no interested and you don't have a clue about the new release, i will call you a troll. so simple !!
No offence.

GrannyGooz
12-02-2012, 11:52 AM
Thank you!

Yannis
12-02-2012, 12:07 PM
You are to new to know what I post here...just search...you will see....
My friend I spend my night to speak with phantoms ( I had phonetic hallucinations )...I don't know if it's still my night who continue and I still speak with phantoms...I'm not really sure it's the day....( I tall that to Sorei before one hour...I pass a part of my night to speak with her !!!! - no joke here...- )
But even if it's another hallucinations....than, I'm a troll in an hallucination...not very important...for people who know me....!!!! :)
If it's not an hallucination...I'm a "Troll with No Offence"....not very important...for people who know me also....!!!!
When I will go out of this Nightmare I live...I will post...
Basil Poledouris - Iron Eagle [Limited Edition] (1986-2008) [FLAC]
That I prefer to Conan....
My Mom call me...I must be awake !!! ( tangotreats...this a real serious message...I'm not joke at all )

tangotreats
12-02-2012, 12:18 PM
Yannis isn't a troll, for God's sake.

It's a fact, though, that this Intrada edition of Conan is well worth having for fans of the score and for fans of Poledouris in general. It's not just some old album with "SUPER BRAND NEW!!!" written on the cover. It's a painstaking reconstruction from original session masters that's well overdue. It features more music and massively improved sound quality.

Yannis, I can't pretend to understand what you're going through - but as always, if you want to talk about anything just send me a message. :)

krissw
12-02-2012, 12:46 PM
Please, add new links !!!

Yannis
12-02-2012, 12:47 PM
P.M send tangotreats...well I suppose ???

scoremaniatic
12-02-2012, 12:56 PM
Conana, that`s funny I thought it was a new movie with a new composer Poldouris ... ;)

showads
12-02-2012, 05:12 PM
All the links are working fine

Sunderella
12-02-2012, 05:13 PM
Only two of the links are working for me :/

tri2061990
12-02-2012, 05:22 PM
Only two of the links are working for me :/

Me too. MF is not reliable anymore.

showads
12-02-2012, 05:25 PM
Guys, last week O posted to multiple servers and everyone moaned they wanted me to use mediafire. today no one appears happy that I have used mediafire :(

Can I suggest we get some kind of consensus as to which server is prefered!

tri2061990
12-02-2012, 05:25 PM
@showads: may be you can download them because they are your files,
MF said"This file has been identified as a copyright protected work and cannot be distributed using MediaFire."

try sendspace, adrive. All of my recent links are from adrive and it's good: high speed, no capcha, no copyright prohibit, fliesize up to 2GB

GusMac
12-02-2012, 06:38 PM
Discs 1 and 2 only - the files were too large for Mediafire hence the "a,b,c"!

Thanks, Showads. Only two of your links still work (the others are blacklisted by Mediafire), but even those 14 tracks are enough that I just purchased the set. I bought the cassette release of this soundtrack back in 1983 and it's been one of my top ten all time favorite soundtracks ever since. It's really a masterpiece and this new release sounds absolutely awesome. But I'm still dying to hear the rest, so hopefully you can repost the files somewhere else where they won't get blocked. Thanks again!

showads
12-02-2012, 07:03 PM
That's yer lot - mirrors supplied in the original post.
Apologies for the spelling mistakes in the thread title, but I can't edit them!!!

GusMac
12-02-2012, 08:57 PM
That's yer lot - mirrors supplied in the original post.

Thanks for the mirrors!!!

d-udo
12-02-2012, 08:59 PM
Thanks a lot a thousand times ! :)
any chance for CD Three ?

ortizthx1138
12-02-2012, 08:59 PM
Woo hoo!!!

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 09:00 PM
I know I'm playing Devil's Advocate here but it's kinda irresponsible to post a FLAC edition, even if incomplete here just after the record came out. Jesus H. Christ, give it a fighting chance to sell a few copies. Intrada is a great company and I pretty much only download copies of records which are out of print. Seriously, it's very douchy to post FLAC so early after the release. At least post 192 or something... feel free to tell me how wrong I am and how much of a hypocrite I am, but I have ordered this soundtrack myself. I believe in supporting these kind of releases. We've been waiting for this for a long time and this is a special treat brought to us by Intrada and their hard working team.

d-udo
12-02-2012, 09:02 PM
I know I'm playing Devil's Advocate here but it's kinda irresponsible to post a FLAC edition, even if incomplete here just after the record came out. Jesus H. Christ, give it a fighting chance to sell a few copies. Intrada is a great company and I pretty much only download copies of records which are out of print. Seriously, it's very douchy to post FLAC so early after the release. At least post 192 or something... feel free to tell me how wrong I am and how much of a hypocrite I am, but I have ordered this soundtrack myself. I believe in supporting these kind of releases. We've been waiting for this for a long time and this is a special treat brought to us by Intrada and their hard working team.

i ordered two ! But shipping to Europe takes a long time, and i can't wait.
But it's for sure i support Intrada ;)

Amanda
12-02-2012, 09:05 PM
I know I'm playing Devil's Advocate here but it's kinda irresponsible to post a FLAC edition, even if incomplete here just after the record came out. Jesus H. Christ, give it a fighting chance to sell a few copies. Intrada is a great company and I pretty much only download copies of records which are out of print. Seriously, it's very douchy to post FLAC so early after the release. At least post 192 or something... feel free to tell me how wrong I am and how much of a hypocrite I am, but I have ordered this soundtrack myself. I believe in supporting these kind of releases. We've been waiting for this for a long time and this is a special treat brought to us by Intrada and their hard working team.

Well, I will never be able to afford this. And having just come back from the hospital this morning, this was a very pleasant surprise and is much appreciated. If you want responsible, you're on the wrong forum. As I say, "tis a pirate site. Not a pirate, go elsewhere. But truly, even though you disagree with the posting, is the name calling **really** necessary to make your point?

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 09:16 PM
Heh, I think showads will live. Plus I am referring to the action and not the person.I know you have medical expenses and whatnot and have to make hard choices sometimes, but yeah, like you say, it's a pirate forum, but at the same time we all know that "I'll never be able to afford this" is a empty excuse. We're not kids on an allowance and we do have disposable income. Even if just to have broadband internet, which is a luxury. $29.90 for a 3 CD set is not something forever unattainable, seriously. That's just a conscious decision not to buy, rather than an impossibility to do so.

Not trying to offend anyone or make enemies, just saying it like it is. I enjoy all your uploads and I have shared stuff too, so like I said, it's a risky thing to stand up and defend this release. But FLAC just days after it comes out is a good way to kill these releases for the future. I'm not fortunate enough to have or pretend to have "composer friends" in the industry or have friends in the tape-trading industry, but I do admit to frequenting this forum, which is also put under the gun for doing this sort of thing. One day Intrada will wise up, contact the forum leaders and then the rules will change to include Intrada releases as unable to be posted openly... or even just shut the forum down. It's a matter of time and these actions do nothing but make that day come a little closer.

Just my $0.02

Amanda
12-02-2012, 09:24 PM
I do not disagree in theory. I would be happy with a vbr post. In fact, I am converting now. And I agree this could backfire for the site, potentially getting Intrada releases banned as FSM and Varese are. I forsee similar problems with the upcoming Star Trek box set. Posting that will possibly nix LLL for the forum too. Then what? But, again, considering the site, it is not at all surprising to see this. I am somewhat surprised to see a flac share so soon though. As far as my chances to get this...perhaps. I see it is not a limited release? So I can probably get it next year. (The move and new insurance hassles have killed my "free" money for the rest of this year) I had thought this was one of those limited release things. If not, then that is great news, and certainly there is no reason then not to grab this puppy. I kinda would not need to have the third disc, but that addition does not seem to have really increased the price too much, at least.

showads
12-02-2012, 09:39 PM
I said in the original post it wasn't my rip! I've shared something I got hold of elsewhere because many people were keen to get it and no one else had come up with the goods. I haven't shared it complete (sorry d-udo but disc 3 didn't interest me so I haven't got it).

Personally I'd rather it was mp3 320 'cos I can't tell the difference between that and FLAC and it wouldn't have taken so long to upload!

That said, the one thing I didn't expect here was criticism!!! This is a soundtrack sharing forum!!!

For the record re my last 3 uploads: "Star Fleet" and "Captain Power" I purchased and shared, and "The Shape Of Things To Come" is unreleased and came direct from the composer!
Maybe next time I'll just download it and keep it to myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought others would appreciate the share :)

d-udo
12-02-2012, 09:42 PM
(sorry d-udo but disc 3 didn't interest me so I haven't got it).



No Problem showads. i was only interested about the remastering of the original LP Cut.
Thanks anyway.

amh1219
12-02-2012, 09:47 PM
Thanks for this! And in flac!

Amanda
12-02-2012, 09:53 PM
I said in the original post it wasn't my rip! I've shared something I got hold of elsewhere because many people were keen to get it and no one else had come up with the goods. I haven't shared it complete (sorry d-udo but disc 3 didn't interest me so I haven't got it).

Personally I'd rather it was mp3 320 'cos I can't tell the difference between that and FLAC and it wouldn't have taken so long to upload!

That said, the one thing I didn't expect here was criticism!!! This is a soundtrack sharing forum!!!

For the record re my last 3 uploads: "Star Fleet" and "Captain Power" I purchased and shared, and "The Shape Of Things To Come" is unreleased and came direct from the composer!
Maybe next time I'll just download it and keep it to myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought others would appreciate the share :)

And I do appreciate the upload. As will most. BUT, there is a group of folks here who do not like to see FLAC quality rips posted so soon. And some even who would rather not see any new release of this sort shared so soon. This discussion comes about from time to time, and really does polarize the community. Bar far, the majority of members here are of the grab it while you can variety, and could care less about whether a release "should" be shared. Far more will dl your share than will ever say thanks, or anything. The main question FOR ME is the attention these share will bring to the site. Such a share of the Trek Ron Jones set is what set about the FSM backlash. So I am torn. On one had this is great to have, thank you SO much. On the other....hmmm. I dunno what the compromise could actually be though, beyond admin taking a stand one way or the other.

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 10:04 PM
Showads, you're missing the point of criticism here.

Yes, this is a soundtrack sharing forum. But it doesn't mean it's a free for all without standards.
Did you take the time to read some threads before posting? Like Reposting other's links (Thread 98850)?
That's just one example. I know you said this isn't your rip. So what do we lose if you throw a tantrum and leave or stop posting? I'm sure others appreciate your share, that's not in question. And I would not mention this if it wasn't a FLAC share so close to the release, but it is. And it seems you just want to get sympathy thanks for posting someone else's links. You know there are people in this forum which get very upset when other people post their rips in other public places, for example.

Again, maybe I'm letting my feelings towards this release and soundtrack to get the better of me, but I think this is a reckless thread, full of mistakes in the title and linking to FLAC of something which just came out days ago from a major soundtrack label. This is very risky stuff to do. Take that criticism as you will, I don't care. I'm just having my say as this is a public forum.

Amanda
12-02-2012, 10:10 PM
I will say that personally, at least these days, I do not post items without getting the sources permission. Mostly. I ALWAYS repack and reup to a new link, usually without the art and scans etc. If it was a flac source, most often I repost at 320. But, that is just me. There are standards to some. But, very few absolute rules as to what can and can't be posted or how. He's free to post whatever, as long as it is not from a banned label. Sanico has confirmed that point before. So really, it is just a judgement call. And the majority will be fine with it. Especially since it is something they want. Obviously, some member/members have already made their feelings known, since it seems the original links were reported and deleted very quickly.

I will also point out the majority of posts are brought in from elsewhere. If people stop doing that, we do all lose, to one degree or another.

Calidoran
12-02-2012, 10:13 PM
I have to agree... even though i prefer lossless, i will settle for MP3. I can't blame me for not buying stuff on anything. If i REALLY want it, i sure can buy it. So... my 2 cents - If it benefits the company selling it, stay off the lossless. Even though 98% of the downloaders will not hear the difference between FLAC and MP3. And the same 98% just will not buy it anyway, just because it is available for free. Here or anywhere.

What Amanda says is true though: Upload one thing, get 100 downloaders AND (if you're lucky) 5 thanks. Ungrateful bunch, most users here...

Amanda
12-02-2012, 10:19 PM
Most members here never post. They only want the music, with the least hassle possible. They want no chit chat, no socializing. Too bad, I rather enjoy many of the discussions around hear. Well, until they get too heated and turn personal..:(

showads
12-02-2012, 10:20 PM
Showads, you're missing the point of criticism here.

Yes, this is a soundtrack sharing forum. But it doesn't mean it's a free for all without standards.
Did you take the time to read some threads before posting? Like Reposting other's links (Thread 98850)?
That's just one example. I know you said this isn't your rip. So what do we lose if you throw a tantrum and leave or stop posting? I'm sure others appreciate your share, that's not in question. And I would not mention this if it wasn't a FLAC share so close to the release, but it is. And it seems you just want to get sympathy thanks for posting someone else's links. You know there are people in this forum which get very upset when other people post their rips in other public places, for example.

Again, maybe I'm letting my feelings towards this release and soundtrack to get the better of me, but I think this is a reckless thread, full of mistakes in the title and linking to FLAC of something which just came out days ago from a major soundtrack label. This is very risky stuff to do. Take that criticism as you will, I don't care. I'm just having my say as this is a public forum.

Someone needs to take a chill pill!!!!!!

I didn't get the score from a link, other forum, etc. I simply said it wasn't my rip - make of that what you will.

"A reckless thread full of mistakes" - two spelling mistakes and it's reckless! You need to get out more and relax!
All this fuss over FLAC - it's indistinguishable from a 320 mp3.
I've no idea what all the "history" re FSM etc. is about, and I'm certainly not interested in sympathy (far too old and mature for such things kiddiwinks).

Didn't mean to cause a a furore, but bear in mind there's been a thread on here for months with people begging for this to be shared!

Links have been deleted so you can remain on the moral high ground. Have a nice day :)

Apologies for any upset caused - it won't happen again.

p.s - the actual score is just average IMHO!!!!!!!

mr_merrick
12-02-2012, 10:30 PM
Links have been deleted so you can remain on the moral high ground. Have a nice day :)

p.s - the actual score is just average IMHO!!!!!!!

"now hear the lamentation of the women..."

Calidoran
12-02-2012, 10:36 PM
Links have been deleted so you can remain on the moral high ground. Have a nice day :)

I guess You could have just converted them to 320s, linked to those and made most of the people here happy ;)

Andee70
12-02-2012, 10:40 PM
I wake up this morning, and after a year finally I can get this, but it's pulled already - fume - can anyone poss mail me some links.....

Amanda
12-02-2012, 10:41 PM
Someone needs to take a chill pill!!!!!!

I didn't get the score from a link, other forum, etc. I simply said it wasn't my rip - make of that what you will.

"A reckless thread full of mistakes" - two spelling mistakes and it's reckless! You need to get out more and relax!
All this fuss over FLAC - it's indistinguishable from a 320 mp3.
I've no idea what all the "history" re FSM etc. is about, and I'm certainly not interested in sympathy (far too old and mature for such things kiddiwinks).

Didn't mean to cause a a furore, but bear in mind there's been a thread on here for months with people begging for this to be shared!

Links have been deleted so you can remain on the moral high ground. Have a nice day :)

Apologies for any upset caused - it won't happen again.

p.s - the actual score is just average IMHO!!!!!!!

Oh for the love of God, people. Why can't we just say thanks to a share. And whty can't we just have a conversation. No name calling, no "grumpiness", just an exchange of ideas. Good fucking gravy. I will archive this original share at 320 later tonight. If you want it, and have actually read the thread to this point, pm me.

Andee70
12-02-2012, 10:41 PM
yes thread started by me a year ago

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 10:44 PM
It's your decision, Showads. I didn't make you do anything.

All this fuss over FLAC - it's indistinguishable from a 320 mp3.
This statement shows you have no idea what the criticism was about. A FLAC download allows someone to re-create and burn an album indistiguishable from the actual CD Audio it was ripped from. This harms the sales of the actual soundtrack because, who's going to buy something you just got for free, completely the same, bit by bit?
I never defended that a 320 rip was acceptable either. At least not right now, days after the release. You could have converted it to a lower bitrate like V0. If you don't know how to do that, then maybe you need to learn about rips a little more. You claim you got this from someone else, but didn't download the 3rd disc. Then you say you didn't steal anyone's links, but you obviously downloaded this from someplace else, so which is it?

There was already a thread for the Conan Intrada release, and you started this "Conana", "Poldouris" soundtrack thread needlessly.
So basically, if you are going to act like a child and throw a tantrum, maybe you're the one who needs to take a chill pill. No one would have forced you to delete anything, you did it yourself out of immature spite.

showads
12-02-2012, 10:45 PM
I guess You could have just converted them to 320s, linked to those and made most of the people here happy ;)

I think I've spent enough time on this - perhaps the numerous people who have already downloaded the files would like to convert them!

I've found this discussion fascinating!

we started with complaints the links didn't work with request for mirrors - I added mirrors.
the moral brigade laid in (hippocrites) - I've removed the links.
now I'm being asked that to appease a vocal minority maybe I should spend more time converting them to mp3 to keep the moral brigade happy - no!
Seriously guys, I'll just go back downloading the stuff when it's shared and say and do nothing!
WHAT A JOKE :)

Andee70
12-02-2012, 10:48 PM
Any link flac or mp3 is fine by me regardless if the thread is misspelt - so what, if you don't like it, then buy a copy (some of us can't afford it and rely on generous folk out there - I did it with the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo post of mine - peeps couldn't afford the FYC version so up it went)

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 10:51 PM
I think I've spent enough time on this - perhaps the numerous people who have already downloaded the files would like to convert them!

I've found this discussion fascinating!

we started with complaints the links didn't work with request for mirrors - I added mirrors.
the moral brigade laid in (hippocrites) - I've removed the links.
now I'm being asked that to appease a vocal minority maybe I should spend more time converting them to mp3 to keep the moral brigade happy - no!
Seriously guys, I'll just go back downloading the stuff when it's shared and say and do nothing!
WHAT A JOKE :)

How will this forum ever survive.

AngelOfDeath*
12-02-2012, 10:51 PM
Many thanks for this new stuff. I hope nothing will happen to the forum.

Yannis
12-02-2012, 10:54 PM
Why you did not made like we all made ( at least the serious poster )...Just put a "P.M. ME FOR THE LINKS" on a Codified Post....and this discussion will not happen at all !!!

Leon Scott Kennedy
12-02-2012, 10:54 PM
showads, a small suggestion, which may sound rude to some... but it allowed me to have almost always a piece of mind, in regards to sharing: if it isn't a member of the Staff speaking about the can/can't do it, free to don't care.

And, personally, is any of you seriously worried about the forum's fate? I get what you mean with the worries about these releases getting shared so soon, but hey... "banned" stuff like Varese/FSM is still getting shared... I'd say we have worse things to worry about, than the sharing of a soundtrack which is still allowed, by forum rules.

tangotreats
12-02-2012, 10:56 PM
*grumbles*

Stay classy, ffshrine. Don't ever change.

frater_mavros is right and he made his case with courtesy.

There's a big difference between ripping off some out-of-print score or some mass-release thing or some overpriced import, and sharing a labour-of-love, hotly-anticipated, easily available all over the world, fairly priced holy grail from a small company, in lossless quality, fifteen seconds after release.

Sharing FLAC so soon after release puts the forum in jeopardy.

It's sad that Freeloaders Anonymous couldn't care less about Intrada or Intrada's staff, who take the money this album makes and use it to pay their mortgages, feed their kids, etc... and can't comprehend the wisdom of planning ahead; in the soundtrack release business - particularly with minority releases from specialist labels - SALES COUNT. If the thing doesn't sell, it jeopardises the possibility of future releases.

But surely the concept of blindly posting this stuff and the forum getting shut down as a result... that must strike a chord with somebody?

No? Ah, sometimes I'm ashamed to be human.

showads
12-02-2012, 10:56 PM
So basically, if you are going to act like a child and throw a tantrum, maybe you're the one who needs to take a chill pill. No one would have forced you to delete anything, you did it yourself out of immature spite.

Not at all, I took them down so people like you would no longer be so upset :)
Spite has nothing to do with it - forum members can PM for the links - they still exist and I'm happy to assist anyone who wishes.
You appear to be a very wound up and angry person!

I started a (miss-spelled!) thread 'cos I though that's what people do when they have something to share - apologies for my ignorance (and spelling!!!).

And your right...I have absolutly no idea what the criticism was about. FLAC, mp3, vbr, APE - it's the music that interests me. The reason I find any criticism puzzling is 'cos I'm a genuine straight up person who thought he was doing a nice thing.

Worry not, I won't make the same mistake again!

Thank you for your kind words :)

Leon Scott Kennedy
12-02-2012, 10:59 PM
It amazes me how this section of the community manages to stir up so much drama, from time to time. Again, do you seriously fear for this place?! Then, shouldn't you be more worried about the still-happening-sharing of banned labels?

showads
12-02-2012, 10:59 PM
Why you did not made like we all made ( at least the serious poster )...Just put a "P.M. ME FOR THE LINKS" on a Codified Post....and this discussion will not happen at all !!!

I genuinley didn't give it a thought.

PM ME FOR THE LINKS!

Calidoran
12-02-2012, 11:00 PM
I guess You could have just converted them to 320s, linked to those and made most of the people here happy ;)

Does that sound like i'm asking you to do anything? Don't think so. What i AM saying is that no matter what you upload, you will not make much difference in the Intrada sales anyway. There are always those that have NO excuse in NOT buying the scores, but STILL refuse to do so. And that only because they are available for free here. So what do we do? Do we stop all these sites? I don't think that will increase the sales. Why? Because there are a few that like what they download here and decide to buy it as well. Which gives that if we shut down these sites, more people will buy the music but also less because they have no good way of sampling it before they buy. The 98% will STILL not buy them even if we shut down these sites...

Another 2 cents... (on my way to the dollar)

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 11:02 PM
You appear to be a very wound up and angry person!

And yet, I'm not the one typing very excited sentences and abusing the punctuation marks. I'm just quietly stating my point.
You're the one getting all emotional about this. I understand, you don't like criticism. But you need to understand other people have a right to an opinion, and sometimes, they will state it, whether you like it or not. That's why this is a public forum. If you expect nothing but people parroting "Thanks!" then maybe you should be one of those uploaders who forces people to post "Thanks!" on the thread before doing the grace of PMing them a link to the soundtracks.

Andee70
12-02-2012, 11:04 PM
interesting debate

tangotreats
12-02-2012, 11:05 PM
It amazes me how ths section of the community manages to stir up so much drama, from time to time. Again, do you seriously fear for this place?! Then, shouldn't you be more worried about the still-happening-sharing of banned labels?

I know you think it's silly, and a lot of people think it's silly... but I do genuinely fear. I've seen it happen before. This place operates just under the mainstream radar. We know for a fact that there are FSM spies here - and that means there are spies from every major record label here. If we get these people pissed off enough... I don't doubt for ONE MOMENT that a swift, curtly phrased threatening letter (written by a lawyer) would be more than enough to shut down FFshrine overnight.

I just don't think it's worth the risk. If people are really busting to download this thing, they'll find a place to do it. We all know that within seven days this thing will have been copied twenty billion times and will be available on every forum, every torrent site, every index, across the internet. Let some other site take the flack, for a change... :)

showads
12-02-2012, 11:09 PM
I know you think it's silly, and a lot of people think it's silly... but I do genuinely fear. I've seen it happen before. This place operates just under the mainstream radar. We know for a fact that there are FSM spies here - and that means there are spies from every major record label here. If we get these people pissed off enough... I don't doubt for ONE MOMENT that a swift, curtly phrased threatening letter (written by a lawyer) would be more than enough to shut down FFshrine overnight.

I just don't think it's worth the risk. If people are really busting to download this thing, they'll find a place to do it. We all know that within seven days this thing will have been copied twenty billion times and will be available on every forum, every torrent site, every index, across the internet. Let some other site take the flack, for a change... :)

tangotreats, that's a very fair point nicelt put which I've never considered. I've enjoyed this forum for a couple of years now (I think).
I certainly don't wish to put it at risk - whether by ignorance or intentionally.

Leon Scott Kennedy
12-02-2012, 11:10 PM
I know you think it's silly, and a lot of people think it's silly... but I do genuinely fear. I've seen it happen before. This place operates just under the mainstream radar. We know for a fact that there are FSM spies here - and that means there are spies from every major record label here. If we get these people pissed off enough... I don't doubt for ONE MOMENT that a swift, curtly phrased threatening letter (written by a lawyer) would be more than enough to shut down FFshrine overnight.

I just don't think it's worth the risk. If people are really busting to download this thing, they'll find a place to do it. We all know that within seven days this thing will have been copied twenty billion times and will be available on every forum, every torrent site, every index, across the internet. Let some other site take the flack, for a change... :)
I understand the fear, sincerely, I do.... But there's one thing I don't understand, and for that I ask help, I won't hide I'm an idiot: if we do have "spies", or those who like to report stuff to FSM/Varese... Why didn't they act, yet? I mean, it's not like getting such labels banned stopped their sharing, right? It just got moved to private messages.

Intrada is allowed, for the time being... The "bad guys" notice it's getting shared here? It will most likely get banned, and that will be it.

Sunderella
12-02-2012, 11:13 PM
If someone reuploads this to another site please let me know in a PM. I only managed to get half of the score. I lost the other links.

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 11:13 PM
Leon Scott Kennedy, there is a big difference between the number of downloads of a link posted openly and a link sent under blind private messaging. You'd be amazed to know the number of downloads of a open link vs a private one. An uploader sending a link via PM doesn't send thousands of PMs, ever.

Amanda
12-02-2012, 11:13 PM
It amazes me how this section of the community manages to stir up so much drama, from time to time. Again, do you seriously fear for this place?! Then, shouldn't you be more worried about the still-happening-sharing of banned labels?

I honestly do not see the shrine getting shut down because of this. (sorry Tango, but it won't happen). This site is NOT just UNDER anyone's radar. It is quite public and fairly well known, at least these days. My point is that if Intrada makes a fuss, and their product is also banned, that screws folks a tad. YES, stuff still manages to get out. It just becomes more...difficult.

showads
12-02-2012, 11:15 PM
I'm off to bed - I'll do my best to reply to the PM's in the morning.

If I manage to upset anyone on here during my sleep, please accept my apologies in advance :)

Yannis
12-02-2012, 11:19 PM
Even with my way of Post...no ask for thank never,never...CODIFIED MY POST ( few people respect that simple rule )...never put the name of The Label on The Title....
The Next Day my Posts are on Filetube.....so I Imagine that tangotreats know very well when he speak about spy here... Just look just 1 day after I made the post ( CODIFIED !!!! ) ==>
Kitaro ost - free download - (13 files) (http://www.filestube.com/k/kitaro+ost)
(Y7031)...and the cherry on the cake...is say that is a 320 version to !!!!!!!

And sorry...this is not a Forbidden Label !!!!...But It work the Same if I post a Varese or any Other ones....The other day...is for share and not just to another Forum, but with a simple Googling for all surfers !!!! ( I start this morning by say that...but...I was in another planet....I'm still in another planet - I speak personally I don't mean nothing about the Forum - )

Leon Scott Kennedy
12-02-2012, 11:21 PM
Leon Scott Kennedy, there is a big difference between the number of downloads of a link posted openly and a link sent under blind private messaging. You'd be amazed to know the number of downloads of a open link vs a private one. An uploader sending a link via PM doesn't send thousands of PMs, ever.
Not always correct, frater_marvos. There's always the chance that one of those guys you send the link to, well, posts it in the open. And, I'd personally have to disagree a bit with the last part, I've happened to share one-so-called banned Soundtrack a few days ago (related to the videogame series BIOHAZARD/Resident Evil).... Already sent 112 PMs.
Anyway, this wasn't exactly what I've been hinting at.... While I'm all for the stating your opinion, I'd also say.... "Leave such matters to the Staff", as in: you're free to say that you don't like too much for a soundtrack to get shared in lossless quality, but don't be surprised if another user decides to not give a crap about what you want.

Amanda
12-02-2012, 11:22 PM
We do know that Varese watches this site, at least at times. I heard that they contacted admin about the pm situation, and were told that members were free to do what they wanted via pm. We KNOW FSM members are also here, and watch. That is a given fact.

tangotreats
12-02-2012, 11:24 PM
Good point - I really don't know. I would guess that these guys grudgingly tolerate PM piracy and other low-key stuff because either it's not worth their while fighting it or they understand its potential to increase sales... but something as brazen as a lossless post of a brand new flagship release only hours after release... that's going to get them wound the f**k up.

I absolutely value the kindness of posters here - showads definitely included. Yes, we're a piracy forum. But we're also a music-lovers forum. I really think there has to be a balance. If some Japanese score that sells 50,000 copies in Japan and probably ten or twenty copies outside of Asia, gets shared on here and a few hundred Westerners download it... do the Japanese give a crap? Course not. If we share something that's sold out, or been on sale for months, years, decades, or is incredibly rare, does the record company (which in some cases may not even exist any more) give a crap? Course not. Nobody really lost anything, and arguably they gained a bit of free advertising and increased awareness.

These Intrada scores, though... they operate on such a tight margin it's a miracle they manage to survive at all. WE are the target audience. They won't sell more than a few thousand copies across the entire world - and that includes hardcore collectors who buy everything in sight just because it's there. If you factor in the time and money it takes them to secure licensing deals, re-use fees, remastering, manufacturing, distribution, etc, etc, etc... every penny really does count.

Combine it with the knowledge that most releases don't even break even and end up subsidised by mass-appeal stuff. (IE, Tadlow finances expensive re-recording projects by selling crappy "Best Of Hans Zimmer" / "Great Western Themes" / "Sci-Fi Movie Scores" compilations made out of old recordings and licensing their recordings to TV production companies, libraries, etc.)

It's a cut-throat business.

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 11:29 PM
I honestly do not see the shrine getting shut down because of this. (sorry Tango, but it won't happen). This site is NOT just UNDER anyone's radar. It is quite public and fairly well known, at least these days. My point is that if Intrada makes a fuss, and their product is also banned, that screws folks a tad. YES, stuff still manages to get out. It just becomes more...difficult.

I understand that you might think that, as the site's been up for a long time and even the FSM and Varese situations have come and gone without the site disappearing, but it is a definite possibility. Recently a lot of links have had very short life spans and I don't think that's solely because of the file hosting websites self-imposed filters on copyrighted material. There are people here who have been reporting files, definitely.

This is a forum, and I have been in several forums which have disappeared, so it's a definite possibility. This forum is now on the top Google hits for any search for soundtracks, it's a tough position to be, and draws a lot of traffic and attention for sure. I used to think otherwise, but I have since changed my view on this. My bookmarks are full of defunct music blogs, and some were even for stuff not commercially available.

tangotreats
12-02-2012, 11:30 PM
I honestly do not see the shrine getting shut down because of this. (sorry Tango, but it won't happen). This site is NOT just UNDER anyone's radar. It is quite public and fairly well known, at least these days. My point is that if Intrada makes a fuss, and their product is also banned, that screws folks a tad. YES, stuff still manages to get out. It just becomes more...difficult.

It can happen, quite easily. I used to co-manage another site that only just narrowly avoided being shut down for the same reasons. We pissed off the wrong content producer, they went stark raving mad, they launched a letter-writing campaign against our hosting company... and we were shut down - we came back up again about a month later with a new host, but that cost us a lot of money (the man who had the server contract had to settle out-of-court) and a lot of time and a lot of effort. We fought and we stayed afloat. We were that close to saying "you know what, we had a good run - this is too much trouble, let's just stay shut down" and that would've been that. Sometimes it's easier to give up. We didn't. Many other sites would, and understandably.

frater_mavros
12-02-2012, 11:33 PM
While I'm all for the stating your opinion, I'd also say.... "Leave such matters to the Staff", as in: you're free to say that you don't like too much for a soundtrack to get shared in lossless quality, but don't be surprised if another user decides to not give a crap about what you want.

That's exactly what I did. I knew I'd get bad replies or even PMs over this, I just wanted to state my opinion and I did. I have no power to force anyone to do something they don't want to do, so you're not telling me anything new that I don't already know.

Leon Scott Kennedy
12-02-2012, 11:34 PM
That's exactly what I did. I knew I'd get bad replies or even PMs over this, I just wanted to state my opinion and I did. I have no power to force anyone to do something they don't want to do, so you're not telling me anything new that I don't already know.
Heh, I wanted to state my opinion on the matter, just like you ;)

EDIT:
Anyway, I wouldn't worry, why? For this reason: remember that what you fear may happen to this place, may potentially happen to it with every damn album/thing which gets posted. Some will take this as uncaring, but enjoy it while it lasts.

Tsobanian
12-02-2012, 11:39 PM
Thank you Amanda!

tangotreats
12-02-2012, 11:41 PM
Heh, I wanted to state my opinion on the matter, just like you ;)

EDIT:
Anyway, I wouldn't worry, why? For this reason: remember that what you fear may happen to this place, may potentially happen to it with every damn album/thing which gets posted. Some will take this as uncaring, but enjoy it while it lasts.

Yes, it might... but I believe in playing the odds. Some things are more likely to cause trouble than others.

Amanda
12-02-2012, 11:57 PM
Ok. So there is a bit of music in the complete score section of this that is not on the supposedly complete re-recording. What gives? Also, was Las Catigas De Santa Maria NOT supposed to be in the Tower of Set sequence. I is the confused....

(an attempt at an artful segue into talking about the, you know, MUSIC) :awsm:

CONAN-A-RAMA IN 320

"K, here is an mp3 320 conversion of the original post. Please note i had already archived this for myself. So, both discs are combined and numbered as one. And, I put Las Catigas De Santa Maria in as track 14, as I am very fond of it and that is about where I am used to hearing it.

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/LM8QZ1EQ/that__s_a_BIG_snake.rar_links
http://en.packupload.com/ED3K9SAFFHX

tangotreats
12-03-2012, 12:18 AM
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Amanda
12-03-2012, 12:23 AM
i dunno. That is the only setting I gots. I have been asked this before. I just dunno. I have used the same converter for a couple years now. It is FreeStudio by DVDVideoSoft. All the mp3 settings are at that rate. Is it a big deal? (no, really, tell me if it is a problem I need to be looking at). It is possible newer versions are different. I have not updated for a long time.

GrannyGooz
12-03-2012, 01:03 AM
Thank you Amanda for the re telling of the big "K" here now I have the chance to try take a bite at it and maybe later savor the taste of it's exquisite flavor.

frater_mavros
12-03-2012, 01:09 AM
As the latest LAME release is v3.99 (October 2011) you might take a look at updating your MP3 encoder setup if you haven't done so in such a long time.

unulufuntu
12-03-2012, 01:52 AM
Thanks a lot Amanda

Amanda
12-03-2012, 01:55 AM
No prob. But thanks to the OP, since I would not have it otherwise. Well, yet. I am sure this will end up being a fairly well shared set. I would like to hear more thoughts obout the actual album though. Not seeing much on FSM etc about it yet, other than the usual.

crmbcrspcoating
12-03-2012, 02:06 AM
I realize this may not be the most popular sentiment around these parts, but everyone should really just GO BUY THIS CD FROM INTRADA. Downloading promos and so on is one thing... but this is a BRAND FUCKING NEW major release from a small label and it needs your support. Don't steal this. Go buy it from Intrada.

Amanda
12-03-2012, 02:25 AM
:erm:

So that's a no on talking about the music, as opposed to the whole "to share or not to share" thing? :sad: :sad:

This conversation never ever goes anywhere. The same statements are always repeated. Bottom line, unless it is on the banned list, it is allowed here. And as long as it is allowed here, someone WILL post it. We can all understand each other's points and opinions. But bottom line, pirate site. Sharing site. Only mods and admin can say otherwise. Which is always where this ends up. No talk of the album, or the music. Or links since the op pulled them. Just a thread full of relatively pointless arguing. It will lead to insulting, and flaming and eventually locking. Just watch. :sad:

Sanico
12-03-2012, 02:34 AM
I have nothing against on posting this, and it is a given that this soundtrack sooner or later would appear on the forum.

But we all know what happened before at the time of the FSM Ron Jones boxset. When Jessie shared openly that box in mp3, nothing happened. It was a share like any other, and stayed like that for a few days until an halfwit decided that it was cool the share the whole boxset in lossless. Bang, in a matter of hours the shrine was under attack from the FSM heads, and the consequence was a restriction of not letting to post their albums anymore on the forum.

That is why i think that sharing an album in lossless a few days after the release date, can unwittingly put at risk the whole forum. If this is what will happen on this case, nobody knows, although i'm sure a title like this will sell big and fast unlike that of Ron Jones box.

unulufuntu
12-03-2012, 02:36 AM
Thanks showads for being the first! I really appreciate it.

Edit: I just realized it's not a "conana" thread anymore

Amanda
12-03-2012, 02:38 AM
Which is what I am afraid will happen when that humongous TOS set hits. But then again, all this was said about the Danny Elfman box too, and nothing at all ever came of that. No one even talks about that set anymore...

Bioscope
12-03-2012, 04:17 AM
Thanks Amanda!!

odinson
12-03-2012, 04:35 AM
I put Las Catigas De Santa Maria in as track 14, as I am very fond of it and that is about where I am used to hearing it.

I *think* it should go in as track 13 (Right after #12, "Hopefuls at the Tower of Set" ) ......that is, if you're trying to copy the actual movie's layout ;)

Alexios
12-03-2012, 05:08 AM
Thank you, showads and Amanda!

However, maybe I've listened to the other versions too many times, but this just doesn't do anything for me. Overlistened. That's the word. I have the same problem with Star Wars these days too. To avoid this, I now keep them both in separate folders now, outside my general music folder. I give them a listen now and then, same result. Maybe I need to take an even longer break from them.

Still, that's just me. I appreciate this as much as ever!

KidFlash
12-03-2012, 08:25 AM
Many thanks, as always, for the links. The Varese CD was one of my first CD purchases way back in 1998, and I absolutely am going to purchase this next month (birthday + cash = new CD!).

Maybe the importance of the set is directly tied into how much new music is on it? As I recall, the Elfman set was mainly repackaging and remastering a lot of stuff that was already available through the limited market. Plus, there was such a low print run. This TOS set will be a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

showads
12-03-2012, 09:45 AM
WOW! After a good nights sleep I can reflect on all these different opinions.

I really caused a stir!!!

Can I say in my defence, I had no idea about the sensitivity of FLAC over mp3 (I I really cannot tell the difference). I prefer mp3 320 over the larger files, personally. I've never convereted any score from one format to another. I knew nothing of any controversy regarding FSM and Ron Jones. The only thing i do know is that nothing from Varese is allowed here!

With regard to stuff being posted so quickly after release, hasn't this always been the case??? Thanks to all those who shared the Battlestar Galactica volumes and all the new Trek scores as soon as they arrived :)

As for the wider scope of this debate, supporting the labels etc. I have no strong opinions either way - I've been downloading, purchasing and sharing scores for years. I have no desire for this forum to close or for labels to go out of business. I've borrowed, taped, copies media since the days of LP's - just like everyone else!!!

Next time I post anything (if ever!) I'll give it more advanced thought.

There was no intention on my part to upset, annoy or endanger anyone or anything (frater mavros excepted as his responses were quite personal and lacking in any form of humour - hence all my "!!!!!!!!!'s").

Finally, thanks to whoever corrected the spelling mistakes in the thread title :)

dean1700
12-03-2012, 10:13 AM
I realize this may not be the most popular sentiment around these parts, but everyone should really just GO BUY THIS CD FROM INTRADA. Downloading promos and so on is one thing... but this is a BRAND FUCKING NEW major release from a small label and it needs your support. Don't steal this. Go buy it from Intrada.

There's no doubt someone will upload it but regardless I will definitely be buying this one.

klinsmann2
12-03-2012, 11:18 AM
Please, send me the links.

A million thanks.

dean1700
12-03-2012, 11:37 AM
Why don't you buy it?

Amanda
12-03-2012, 11:42 AM
Please, send me the links.

A million thanks.

IF you want the flac links, those cannot be pm'ed to you until you have 5 postsw. Then your pm system will be activated, not until then. For mp3 3230, see my posts above. Or the film Hunt thread, I posted there too.

caledor
12-03-2012, 11:50 AM
Please, send me the links.

Amanda
12-03-2012, 11:56 AM
WHo are you asking? And, WHICH links. I will not do the flac. For 320, I have posted those in this thread and the hunt thread and so will not respond with pm's for now.

caledor
12-03-2012, 11:59 AM
flac links would be cool,

frater_mavros
12-03-2012, 12:40 PM
:erm:

So that's a no on talking about the music, as opposed to the whole "to share or not to share" thing? :sad: :sad:

This conversation never ever goes anywhere. The same statements are always repeated. Bottom line, unless it is on the banned list, it is allowed here. And as long as it is allowed here, someone WILL post it. We can all understand each other's points and opinions. But bottom line, pirate site. Sharing site. Only mods and admin can say otherwise. Which is always where this ends up. No talk of the album, or the music. Or links since the op pulled them. Just a thread full of relatively pointless arguing. It will lead to insulting, and flaming and eventually locking. Just watch. :sad:

It's not a matter of going somewhere with this sort of conversation, it's passing a message towards people who don't care about sharing FLAC on recent releases, or who post links from other sources on this forum and in their turn, probably will post stuff from this forum on other places. It's making some of these members realise that yes this is a pirate forum, but like tangotreats said, WE ARE THE INTENDED MARKET for these releases, and if we don't buy them, then they won't be able to continue doing these releases, or might decide to take action to protect their investment.

The message is that we can be "pirates" or rather "sharers" (as I consider pirates make money off pirated content selling "pirate copies" and we make none), but we can at least have some standards. If we are music lovers as I think a lot of the more well-known Grand Shriners are, then we know some of these releases deserve at least a fighting chance to sell some copies. I'd be cool with a low bitrate sampler being posted, but not FLAC of this. If it was a Limited Intrada edition, and it had sold out entirely, I wouldn't be so critical of posting it here, but as it is it's a Mary Ann Fake MFA edition, which means they're banking on a long term sales for this, and posting FLAC destroys that project.

I know someone else will post it if this forum doesn't, but I'd rather let another place take the responsibility for this. This is a holy Grail of soundtracks and showads comes up, posts FLAC that he got from someone else, mistypes the thread title, and then throws a tantrum and leaves when faced with a simple string of feedback. I don't think there's any big loss from his threat to never share anything with us again, and frankly I don't care if I hurt his feelings. I just wanted to have my say.

So, yeah. It's not that I'm trying to convince anyone to give up their sharing ways, I know there's a banned list and things which aren't banned are fair game, but I just would like to ask people reading my post to have some standards and try not to post FLAC immediately after the release. I know as this is my favorite composer and my favorite movie score that I am letting my feelings dictate my morality to some extent, but I urge anyone who can to buy and support this release.

And I don't think that this is pointless arguing, or that anyone is flaming. So far, people have been very calm and we're just stating our opinion about this thread. That might say something about the music too, as it's clear people love it so much they feel the need to defend this release, even though they are members in a sharing forum. You're crying wolf saying this will be locked, I see no reason for that. We're just having a quiet discussion.

Amanda
12-03-2012, 01:44 PM
No. We do this all the time. I am a music lover, yes. But I have no issue with the posting of this. Most of the time, the Shrine is the first and best place to get things. I do not think that the posting of even flac is going to really damage sales. From my point of view, the vast majority of people coming here for music don't do so just because they can't afford it, but because they don't want to buy it. I figure the majority of downloads are from people who would not buy the album anyway, so no sale is really "lost".

Sure, you can ask him not to post. Of course. My point is that we have been through this dozens of times now. Both sides have made the same points numbers of times. And yea, usually these things end up locked or deleted. Things have not been "very calm". Things have been very aggressive. Attitude towards the OP was very aggressive. I don't see how one can't see that. Every response just gets more personal. This thread is not about the links or the music anymore, it is about the merits of posting. This conversation belongs in general discussion under a thread about it. Perhaps I shall start one, then Sanico can close this down.

EDIT:

Pm'ed Sanico, and awaiting a response. This conversation may have merit, but it clogs the thread. Those looking for a link will never find it wading through all of this. General Discussion is where we are supposed to do this, the dl forum is SUPPOSED to be just for links. This was literally beat into me in the past. To that end I will start a new thread on this topic there. We can discuss in detail, with any interested member about the idea in general, and not just this one album. Since if we decide to refrain on this I think we should refrain on any new release. I think to be fair and consistent, the size and nature of the release or releasing company should have no bearing. It should be an across the board decision, or not at all.

kboy930
12-03-2012, 02:00 PM
Thanks!


Ok. So there is a bit of music in the complete score section of this that is not on the supposedly complete re-recording. What gives? Also, was Las Catigas De Santa Maria NOT supposed to be in the Tower of Set sequence. I is the confused....

(an attempt at an artful segue into talking about the, you know, MUSIC) :awsm:

CONAN-A-RAMA IN 320

"K, here is an mp3 320 conversion of the original post. Please note i had already archived this for myself. So, both discs are combined and numbered as one. And, I put Las Catigas De Santa Maria in as track 14, as I am very fond of it and that is about where I am used to hearing it.

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/LM8QZ1EQ/that__s_a_BIG_snake.rar_links
http://en.packupload.com/ED3K9SAFFHX

Amanda
12-03-2012, 02:22 PM
For those who want to continue the discussion, and according to forum rules on this stuff, I have opened a thread in GD for this:

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/what-types-releases-should-we-community-post-123972/#post2219865

I encourage participation there, where it belongs. I am interested in the communitie's thoughts as a whole, and not just us on one release. Hope to see you there.

Sunderella
12-03-2012, 02:56 PM
I'm looking for the cover for this one, all I can find is a 250x250 :(

tangotreats
12-03-2012, 03:22 PM
AmNADA: I can has FLAC???

In all seriousness, how a discussion "clogs" a thread I will never know. Perhaps forcing folk to read a little bit of intelligent discourse in the search for their freebies isn't entirely a bad thing. I hope that this thread will end up with *no* download links and then it can simply be moved to Discussions, or otherwise obliterated as occasionally happens around here.

I fear your thread will achieve nothing; it will be a showdown between three groups:

a) Fuck you, I want to download everything. Post all of FSM's releases in FLAC right now. Fuck Intrada, fuck FSM, fuck Doug Fake, fuck Lukas Kendall, fuck Basil Poledouris, fuck Ford Thaxton, fuck Varese, fuck everybody, fuck paying for music. A CD costs a few pennies. Record companies are taking the piss.

b) Let's be a bit canny over what we post and respect smaller labels; restrict posting to poor quality and/or wait until such releases have sold out, been on the market for a long period of time, or become commonplace on the internet.

c) All music sharing is evil and all you bastards should be shot.

I would vote for B. Most people would vote for A, and a handful will vote C for trollage.

Discussion is irrelevant. People will be selfish and people will argue for the option that provides them the biggest gain.

amh1219
12-03-2012, 03:27 PM
I'm looking for the cover for this one, all I can find is a 250x250 :(

Both covers are at 600x600 on this page (http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22576).

Amanda
12-03-2012, 03:28 PM
actually, I think the opinions already posted are interesting. As for clogging, I is attempting to follow established site rules. Plus, looking for a broader spectrum. Plus heated debates are tolerated more in GD.

frater_mavros
12-03-2012, 03:47 PM
No. We do this all the time. I am a music lover, yes. But I have no issue with the posting of this. Most of the time, the Shrine is the first and best place to get things. I do not think that the posting of even flac is going to really damage sales. From my point of view, the vast majority of people coming here for music don't do so just because they can't afford it, but because they don't want to buy it. I figure the majority of downloads are from people who would not buy the album anyway, so no sale is really "lost".

Sure, you can ask him not to post. Of course. My point is that we have been through this dozens of times now. Both sides have made the same points numbers of times. And yea, usually these things end up locked or deleted. Things have not been "very calm". Things have been very aggressive. Attitude towards the OP was very aggressive. I don't see how one can't see that. Every response just gets more personal. This thread is not about the links or the music anymore, it is about the merits of posting. This conversation belongs in general discussion under a thread about it. Perhaps I shall start one, then Sanico can close this down.

EDIT:

Pm'ed Sanico, and awaiting a response. This conversation may have merit, but it clogs the thread. Those looking for a link will never find it wading through all of this. General Discussion is where we are supposed to do this, the dl forum is SUPPOSED to be just for links. This was literally beat into me in the past. To that end I will start a new thread on this topic there. We can discuss in detail, with any interested member about the idea in general, and not just this one album. Since if we decide to refrain on this I think we should refrain on any new release. I think to be fair and consistent, the size and nature of the release or releasing company should have no bearing. It should be an across the board decision, or not at all.

You're really determined to creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Claiming that "flaiming" is going to get the thread closed, then creating a new thread to discuss what you say is fruitless discussion and actually PMing a moderator when I say that we're just calmly discussing to ask for the thread to get closed. Why? I don't see the point. You seem like you're just trying to get people to shut up for no reason than the fact that you think this discussion is irrelevant to your interests.

I for one am done with the message I wanted to communicate in this thread. I made my point. You made sure to convert the FLAC links and already started posting them in more than one place, so now any further discussion is in fact irrelevant. But don't tell me people looking for a link will "never find it wadding through all of this" when showads has your links posted in the #1 post, for goodness' sakes.

Ok I'm done here. I agree with tango, think sometimes a little discussion about these things is a good thing, rather than just threads full of "Thanks!". That's not discussion.

Amanda
12-03-2012, 03:57 PM
Well, A) I was not aware he put the links there as he did not tell me.

B) FORUM RULES state that we are not to have these discussions in the download sections. MODERATORS have said repeatedly so, and have gone as far as asking me to create a discussion thread in GD for film scores. No one listens, of course. But that is where this conversation is SUPPOSED to take place. So, I moved there. Since this issue seems to encompass a larger sense than just this release. We are not talking about this one release there, but an over all concept of sharing protocols. Join in or don't, no big. But this is obviously something that draws out strong feelings, and was not going away. So I moved appropriately. Since we are NOT SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE discussions in the dl threads.

C) I did not say flaming was occurring. I SAID that these things almost always LEAD to that. Not that it had already. ALMOST.

Yea, I think this needs to close. Allow the op to keep the links in the first post. Lock it. Unless anyone wants to give input on the album itself. But of course there is a GD thread for that to. It is called the film score hunt discussion thread, which I made AT ADMIN'S REQUEST, in order to accomodate discussion about music, without clogging the dl section. That's the point, good sir.

frater_mavros
12-03-2012, 04:12 PM
I'm honestly not trying to clutter this thread but I really would like to know where in the rules is that mention that we shouldn't discuss specific topics in the Download section, as I have repeatedly read the stickies and rule threads and I have seen no mention of this in the mods or admins posts. There is this in the guidelines, but I think this discussion actually concerns most members and the forum, to the point that you made a thread to involve more people in public discussing the topic we've been addressing:

"Chatting in Threads: first off, keep in mind that we let a bit more slide in general discussion than elsewhere. beyond that, don't post back and forth with someone if you're the only ones that'd be interested in your exchanges: use PM's."

It's not like I'm asking you or tango or showads about your personal lives or what you guys have been up to. We could continue this in PM if you feel like it, though. Like I said, I'm done talking about the whole FLAC/New releases thing. And again, I think there's not need to close this thread at all, but I'm not a Moderator and neither are you. sanico has read the thread and apparently didn't see much of an issue with the discussion going on. That's it for me.

Amanda
12-03-2012, 04:23 PM
Frator, see my pm for my take.

tangotreats
12-03-2012, 04:33 PM
There's that word again... clogging.

This forum isn't a toilet in a Mexican restaurant, or the arteries of some cholesterol-fuelled apathetic layabout.

Sometimes, discussions grow naturally out of download links. A school of thought posits that these nasty discussions - examples of independent thought and the consumption of hard disc space not directly related to stealing music - must be immediately exorcised so as to shield the inveterate freeloaders from inconvenience... and in this case, inconvenience is defined as exposing them to a few paragraphs of occasionally heated but basically courteous debate.

Oh, no! Whatever will these poor, unfortunate souls do now?

Frankly, filing this discussion away in another section of the forum will hide it from the very people who should be reading it. People coming in here are looking for download links. So, let's talk about why some download links are bad. People going to General Discussions want to talk about penises, or whine about Peeje.

Flaming only generally occurs when somebody turns up and tries to stop a perfectly good, amicable discussion on the grounds that a) they don't like it, b) they don't agree with the views being disseminated, or c) they fear the end result of the discussion.

A moderator has participated in this thread already and hasn't complained about the discussion; indeed she has even participated. Thus far, the only person who seems to be chagrined by this debate is you... Chagrined to the extent that you are now trying your level best to get this thread locked. Why? Is somebody being hurt by this thread?

Amanda
12-03-2012, 04:44 PM
perhaps I have been burned too often over the chat thing. And, you KNOW that, you were there. You KNOW how that made me feel, and the outcome. The fact that mods chose to not enforce their own rules when they want is not my fault. But yea, I have been bashed enough to just take it out of here. And, the GD section is actually different these days. The STS crowd has left the forum, and that thread, so, discussion is once again on other things, Besides it won't hurt members to see there is more to the forum than this one teeny section. I have switched this discussion to pm with frator, and I would ask you to as well, since going further along this one leads to more talk of personal feelings on this subject, and no need to stir up bad blood openly.

Jessie
12-03-2012, 04:59 PM
Amanda did the right thing in trying to move the discussion about sharing and stuff to the GD section. There's no harm in discussion about the music being shared, but when another topic pops up that takes control of the thread then it's best moved elsewhere. As mentioned before, these discussions sometimes do lead to flaming and derailment of a thread, usually resulting in a thread closure.

Mods and admin tend to close threads when they go off topic or start to get nasty. It's not stated in the rules, we're just asked to do so to try and keep the peace.

Sanico
12-03-2012, 05:06 PM
Everybody are stating their opinions on the thread and that's fine because no one is offending each other and the thread didn't derailed into off-topic discussions.

Actually there's nothing that prevents a discussion in the downloads section unless they are not related to the topic of a thread (and taking into account the thread was created to share a soundtrack in the first place), or when there's an agressive talking between members. And only when this happens is when the topics are closed.

Amanda
12-03-2012, 05:18 PM
The GD thread is mostly on a bigger topic in general now anyway, and Leon just clued us in on a nifty little trick. I personally recommend it, knowing everyone's views is not bad, and can be interesting. And in this case, we learned something. :)

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This may be a moot point though. As soon as it was posted in FLAC, it was dl'ed how many times? Soon, that will be everywhere. And my conversion too. Even lacking disc 3. So, really any damage is likely already done. And, I think that is what upsets some, the FLAC will be everywhere in days, not even a week after official release. I think that is why they are asking for more thought and care. ?

vje11
12-03-2012, 05:58 PM
Can someone please please send me the Flac version of this?

Thanks a lot

Andee70
12-03-2012, 06:02 PM
out of interest did the ones complaining here, complain about the Elfman box or the ST - TNG box - doubt it...

tangotreats
12-03-2012, 06:08 PM
Speaking for myself, yes, and yes. Not everybody else did, though - and I can understand why. Not everybody wants a fight all the time. Sometimes a post happens that just rubs folk up the wrong way - and they complain. They chose their battles carefully...

Andee70
12-03-2012, 06:12 PM
or times like this, the battle highlights the fact that that the links will get killed, I suggest PM is the option....

frater_mavros
12-03-2012, 06:13 PM
This may be a moot point though. As soon as it was posted in FLAC, it was dl'ed how many times? Soon, that will be everywhere. And my conversion too. Even lacking disc 3. So, really any damage is likely already done. And, I think that is what upsets some, the FLAC will be everywhere in days, not even a week after official release. I think that is why they are asking for more thought and care. ?

Yes.

Amanda
12-03-2012, 06:21 PM
out of interest did the ones complaining here, complain about the Elfman box or the ST - TNG box - doubt it...

Yes, there were protests for Elfman. People asked it not be shared. It was. People asked it not be shared FLAC. It was. Same goes for the FSM Next Gen set. Same goes for the Conan re-recording, and a bunch of others, all from the smaller labels. This point of view has been well expressed, consistently by mostly the same members quite a lot. Not just this, but a lot of releases in general. Their comments and actions have been very consistent.

Octavi
12-03-2012, 06:42 PM
Thanks!!

alfrodo
12-03-2012, 07:20 PM
Thank u both!

Amanda
12-03-2012, 07:29 PM
So ok. Back to Las Catigas De Santa Maria. The re-recording has it as "Tower of Set/Snake Fight" and clocks 5:20. It is between tower of set hopefuls and infidels. The new set has a track for Tower of Set, and another for The Snake/Infidels, both containing music I do not remember. Comments on this set indicated "original" score for the snake fight....did Las Contigas end up replacing the original Tower of Set and Snake fight tracks? Cause that is where I **thought** it was used.

As for re-recording being score "as written", now i question that too. Las Catigas sounds NOTHING like the re-recordings version. Not even close. Granted, the new set is supposed to be closer to the original intent. But it is a minute or so shorter. Las Catigas on the new set is over 6 min. Did Basil go, "God, This sounds quite shitty. Let's continue for another minute or so?" Also, the kitchen fight and end credits are both edits done in film, and were not scored by the composer. So, if basil composed no score FOR these, then HOW can they be re-orchestrated to his original notes, as there weren't any? :erm:

pheonyx74
12-03-2012, 10:02 PM
Track 13 of the 3rd disc is new release and not on any previous release.
13. Prologue (W/Narration)/Anvil Of Crom 3:39

Also the 3rd disc is a reprint of the original Milan publication NOT the banned Varese Sarabande release. Milan is 12 tracks and Varese Sarabande is 16.
Can anyone post it?

scorelove
12-03-2012, 11:33 PM
can i have it please pleaseeeeeee?!

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in flac please, if possible :)

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thank you! Do you have the artwork / cd prints too? anyone? thanks!

Alamo
12-04-2012, 12:25 AM
Thank you for sharing.

DEMONiX_SD
12-04-2012, 12:29 AM
OMG - I really need this. After being very disappointed by the Tadlow release (re-recording that failed to touch the original, just not quite right in it's "sound"), I'm looking forward to this. I'd buy it, but $30 is a bit too dear. $20 I'd have done...

ANYWAY - FLAC please?

I'd also like the 3rd disc in FLAC too (as it's source is the new digital masters, but the track listing is deliberately the same as the previous Conan UMG release + 2 tracks:
"Poledouris was fond of his own 48-minute distillation of highlights from massive score so we have licensed that original 1982 MCA album from UMG as well, newly mastered from original album tapes. Two final extras: opening prologue with Mako narration plus actual mono tape master for film version of snake sequence preferred by director Milius" -- CONAN THE BARBARIAN (3CD) (http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7716/.f)

So; FLAC please?

Thank you so much!

^_^

spaniard69
12-04-2012, 12:45 AM
can i have it (in flac if it is possible), please?

Greetings

Dettlaff
12-04-2012, 02:33 AM
Thank you, my copy should be in the mail by tomorrow so not really needed, but this is a LONG TIME COMING...bless.

frater_mavros
12-04-2012, 02:36 AM
I'd buy it, but $30 is a bit too dear. $20 I'd have done...

ANYWAY - FLAC please?

Hilarious.

DEMONiX_SD
12-04-2012, 03:14 AM
Yar - it is hilarious.

I've actually not listened to a CD for over 7-8 years!

My system hasn't even had a disc drive for just over a year! (So; I don't even use DVDs any more!)

My Tadlow Conan CD is STILL SEALED (as I just don't use CDs any more!).
(However I've then downloaded the FLAC of that - as I do own the CD anyway - I can even provide photographs on request, with a gun pointed at the CD, it blindfolded, holding up a dated newspaper - well, maybe without the gun...)

However, point to note is that I've still bought CD's in the past (but usually never even open the seals! - read; HALO ODST, HALO 3, RAVENOUS OST, AVATAR, Aliens, New Intrada Predator release, etc! all still sealed)

You know what, you're right - I'm being an a**hole. Conan the Barbarian's score is my overall favourite epic score, & I should buy it.
You know what - I've just decided that I will buy it. I mean it - seriously. I'm seriously. Kyle, seriously.

However, I still want the FLAC (so I don't have to rip the disc myself - esp. without a disc drive!).

I'll also be wanting to sell my sealed Tadlow Conan 2CD. Anyone want?
EDIT: I've just realised this sounds bad - I should point out that I won't be listening to my Tadlow release any more because it's just not "me", but a lot of people seem to like it a lot, some even more than the original Conan release... (so don't think that I'll still be listening to the flac of that, when I won't own the CD any more, ... he said morally on a pirate forum O_o )

alexandrabruno
12-04-2012, 03:25 AM
someone can send me the flac's links by pm please ?

thanks

Amanda
12-04-2012, 03:44 AM
Yar - it is hilarious.

I've actually not listened to a CD for over 7-8 years!

My system hasn't even had a disc drive for just over a year! (So; I don't even use DVDs any more!)

My Tadlow Conan CD is STILL SEALED (as I just don't use CDs any more!).
(However I've then downloaded the FLAC of that - as I do own the CD anyway - I can even provide photographs on request, with a gun pointed at the CD, it blindfolded, holding up a dated newspaper - well, maybe without the gun...)

However, point to note is that I've still bought CD's in the past (but usually never even open the seals! - read; HALO ODST, HALO 3, RAVENOUS OST, AVATAR, Aliens, New Intrada Predator release, etc! all still sealed)

You know what, you're right - I'm being an a**hole. Conan the Barbarian's score is my overall favourite epic score, & I should buy it.
You know what - I've just decided that I will buy it. I mean it - seriously. I'm seriously. Kyle, seriously.

However, I still want the FLAC (so I don't have to rip the disc myself - esp. without a disc drive!).

I'll also be wanting to sell my sealed Tadlow Conan 2CD. Anyone want?
EDIT: I've just realised this sounds bad - I should point out that I won't be listening to my Tadlow release any more because it's just not "me", but a lot of people seem to like it a lot, some even more than the original Conan release... (so don't think that I'll still be listening to the flac of that, when I won't own the CD any more, ... he said morally on a pirate forum O_o )

Please understand. The current "controversy" is not new. And just because it has died down does not mean frater's opinions have changed. So, expect he will comment. Deal with it. Mods have repeatedly said that anyone is free to request anything they want. So relax. Either someone will get it to you, or they won't, and Frater's comment is not the tipping point of that.

For the record, to all who pm me, I do NOT have flac. I don't use or keep it, after I convert to mp3. Sorry.

spaniard69
12-04-2012, 11:10 AM
Thanks, showads for the links

Greetings.

f@b
12-04-2012, 11:57 AM
Would be great to have it in Flac also, please. Thanks guys, and let Crom decide who will survive the battle ! (;) )

Rouky
12-04-2012, 02:13 PM
Where are good links please ???????

everythings are busy or deleted :(

2 days I try to download...

linkwars89
12-04-2012, 05:19 PM
Thanks

Pangare
12-04-2012, 05:20 PM
Thank you, dear Amanda! You've made my day.

T101
12-04-2012, 06:00 PM
is the ultimate??? 3 cds????

Petros
12-05-2012, 12:01 AM
Many thanks.

odinson
12-05-2012, 05:16 AM
So ok. Back to Las Catigas De Santa Maria. The re-recording has it as "Tower of Set/Snake Fight" and clocks 5:20. It is between tower of set hopefuls and infidels. The new set has a track for Tower of Set, and another for The Snake/Infidels, both containing music I do not remember. Comments on this set indicated "original" score for the snake fight....did Las Contigas end up replacing the original Tower of Set and Snake fight tracks? Cause that is where I **thought** it was used.

As for re-recording being score "as written", now i question that too. Las Catigas sounds NOTHING like the re-recordings version. Not even close. Granted, the new set is supposed to be closer to the original intent. But it is a minute or so shorter. Las Catigas on the new set is over 6 min. Did Basil go, "God, This sounds quite shitty. Let's continue for another minute or so?" Also, the kitchen fight and end credits are both edits done in film, and were not scored by the composer. So, if basil composed no score FOR these, then HOW can they be re-orchestrated to his original notes, as there weren't any? :erm:

As I understand it:

The track at the end of CD2 labelled "Las Cantigas de Santa Maria" is actually only ONE of many Cantigas, #166 (sometimes called "Como poden per sas culpas", which is first line of the medieval poem the music was originally written to accompany back the 13th or 14th Century). Except for the female choir and a few minor instruments that BP added, the recording that appears in the movie (and at the end of CD2) is by the Rene Clemencic Consort, released on LP by Harmonia Mundi Records in 1976 (on Vol. 2 of the Clemencic collection of the Cantigas). You can hear it (without the later BP Conan additions) on YouTube. The running time for this recording matches its use in the movie exactly (although the previous track, "Hopefuls", is shortened in the movie).

The so-called "original" "Tower of Set" track on CD1 (right after "Hopefuls") is a composition BP wrote for the movie -- so THAT, I suppose, is why it's part of the "Complete Score", even though it's not in the movie (and that's why the times don't match. Maybe "Hopefuls" would've been played at its full length if this version of "Set" had been used, ormaybe there would've been a short break in the score). I haven't had a chance to listen to this "original" version of "Set" very much yet, but it sounds like it's pretty much just a slowed-down version of the music that appears later in the movie as "The Kitchen / The Orgy".

The "Tower of Set" track on the Prometheus edition is the 13th Century "Cantigas" song as BP had WANTED to record it (with some different instruments than Clemencic used), but never did, supposedly because John Milius wanted the Clemencic recording, or didn't like the changes BP wanted to make, or didn't like the "original" "Tower of Set" track, or whatever.

Anyway I hope that helps, and I hope I haven't messed up any facts!

On another note, no one has mentioned but there IS something missing from this 3CD set: Mako's narration for the epilogue "Conan the King" (which was added to the DVD "extended cut" of the movie; In the original theatrical cut the epilogue narration only appears as scrolling text on the screen). They added his spoken prologue as "one last extra" so I don't know why they didn't include that one too, just ot be "complete". But then I guess they could add his narration throughout the whole score, and then it would just get crazy.

DaveKramer
12-05-2012, 07:00 AM
Hi everyone

Frankly, all these pages of this useless controversy about posting certain type of file format of this release. From law's side, if someone posts this album rip links (whatever the file format) without owner permission, it still piracy, nothing else. So, posting MP3 instead of FLAC is pure hypocrisy.

So, if someone doesn't agree about this sharing, please don't stop on this thread and go somewhere else. But please, don't lecture showads (the original poster who was kind to share this album in FLAC to ffshrine community) about this stupid file format controversy.

After this 'mess', I don't know whom I have to contact via PM for FLAC links request. So if someone has these links, please PM me.
Thanks in advance.

Amanda
12-05-2012, 07:26 AM
Dave, you would have to pm the OP,showads, I would think.

Sanico
12-05-2012, 07:49 AM
Hi everyone

Frankly, all these pages of this useless controversy about posting certain type of file format of this release. From law's side, if someone posts this album rip links (whatever the file format) without owner permission, it still piracy, nothing else. So, posting MP3 instead of FLAC is pure hypocrisy.

So, if someone doesn't agree about this sharing, please don't stop on this thread and go somewhere else. But please, don't lecture showads (the original poster who was kind to share this album in FLAC to ffshrine community) about this stupid file format controversy.

After this 'mess', I don't know whom I have to contact via PM for FLAC links request. So if someone has these links, please PM me.
Thanks in advance.

I don't think no one said that mp3 is not piracy. The issue we have been talking is if it's correct to share in lossless an album that has just been released, and at extent it may lead the label that is releasing in ask to remove, in the best scenario, all and future releases by them from the forum.

Mind you that the two worst problems FFS has faced in the past, were precisely caused by lossless releases. One with the FSM from the lossless sharing of the Ron Jones box set, and the other with the VS label in the now defunct lossless mega thread.

Arial
12-05-2012, 08:38 AM
So ok. Back to Las Catigas De Santa Maria. The re-recording has it as "Tower of Set/Snake Fight" and clocks 5:20. It is between tower of set hopefuls and infidels. The new set has a track for Tower of Set, and another for The Snake/Infidels, both containing music I do not remember. Comments on this set indicated "original" score for the snake fight....did Las Contigas end up replacing the original Tower of Set and Snake fight tracks? Cause that is where I **thought** it was used.

As for re-recording being score "as written", now i question that too. Las Catigas sounds NOTHING like the re-recordings version. Not even close. Granted, the new set is supposed to be closer to the original intent. But it is a minute or so shorter. Las Catigas on the new set is over 6 min. Did Basil go, "God, This sounds quite shitty. Let's continue for another minute or so?" Also, the kitchen fight and end credits are both edits done in film, and were not scored by the composer. So, if basil composed no score FOR these, then HOW can they be re-orchestrated to his original notes, as there weren't any? :erm:

... As the other thread seems to sink: http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/conan-barbarian-intrada-new-release-93932/8.html#post2220551 ... And it's not "Contigas" please ! :)

"Also, the kitchen fight and end credits are both edits done in film, and were not scored by the composer. So, if basil composed no score FOR these, then HOW can they be re-orchestrated to his original notes, as there weren't any?"

... What's the deal here ? Is there a new track for the orgy fight sequence ?... or are you talking about the claims of the re-recording ?... Please, bare in mind their claim and talk was a huge commercial operation over the fans, over-heated with several exagerated claims, like saying Poledouris wasn't happy with the recording, wich is wrong as it only concerned the poor performance of the 2nd film's score, as they even stated themselves releasing that new one. Betrayed !... I've always seen these re-recordings as versions for kids anyway. :) ... If only it was well done.

spaniard69
12-05-2012, 09:02 AM
It's not Contigas, neither Catigas, neither Cantiguas.
It's "Cantigas", poems with musical notations in language "galaico-portugues" in the court of Castile (Spain) during the reign of Alfonso X "the Wise" (13th Century)

Amanda
12-05-2012, 09:11 AM
I type the title precisely as it appears in the tags and track list....and the track lists and tags spell it Las Catigas. I does as I sees...:)

spaniard69
12-05-2012, 09:21 AM
Well, then is misprint.

It's probably that etymologically Cantigas and spanish word "canto" (singing or chant) come from the same latin root "cantus", from verb "cantare". Like italian opera term "bel canto"

Greetings

Arial
12-05-2012, 09:28 AM
I type the title precisely as it appears in the tags and track list....and the track lists and tags spell it Las Catigas. I does as I sees...:)

... No reply to my reply in the link ? ... I mean, does it reply ?

Also would you please reply to my question above ?


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It's not Contigas, neither Catigas, neither Cantiguas.
It's "Cantigas", poems with musical notations in language "galaico-portugues" in the court of Castile (Spain) during the reign of Alfonso X "the Wise" (13th Century)

Exactly !... Why did I put a "u"?...

Also the exact name of the track is "Como poden per sas culpas", the Cantigas being the whole canva.

S'hunter
12-05-2012, 09:29 AM
Sighs and checks the post box again looking for his own copy!! :)

Arial
12-05-2012, 09:32 AM
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S'hunter
12-05-2012, 11:19 AM
And It's arrived!! :) :)

unulufuntu
12-05-2012, 01:22 PM
Is this the c�ntiga of Castilla you are talking about?
Cantiga de Santa Maria n. 166 - "Como poden per sas culpas" (XIII sec., Alfonso X "El Sabio") - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYO34QnJcIA)
It sounds like conan but It is a different melody.
edit: not, it is this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPphy89lvao

check this video at 00:35 and 3:22, conan was filmed in Castilla too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_510172&feature=iv&src_vid=HlP_i6L6Xxg&v=DfuSFwqMIiw

GoshShesHot
12-05-2012, 10:59 PM
Thanks for the up, be it 320k mp3 or FLAC. I do intend to buy this, but after recent purchases it will be early next year before I do.

frater_mavros
12-06-2012, 12:51 AM
Hi everyone

Frankly, all these pages of this useless controversy about posting certain type of file format of this release. From law's side, if someone posts this album rip links (whatever the file format) without owner permission, it still piracy, nothing else. So, posting MP3 instead of FLAC is pure hypocrisy.

So, if someone doesn't agree about this sharing, please don't stop on this thread and go somewhere else. But please, don't lecture showads (the original poster who was kind to share this album in FLAC to ffshrine community) about this stupid file format controversy.

After this 'mess', I don't know whom I have to contact via PM for FLAC links request. So if someone has these links, please PM me.
Thanks in advance.

First of all, it's pretty valid discussion. I don't know why you claim that it is "useless" controversy. It's useless to you, maybe, but several people have been trading points of view here about the topic at hand, another thread has been created to discuss it more generally and 2 Mods and the Administrator of this forum have chimed in to the conversation, so I don't think it's as useless as you claim. You probably just think it's useless because all you care is having your little link "wham-bam thank you mam", and your minimal interaction with strangers on the internet is done and over.

I know from the law's side, both mp3 and FLAC are equally bad. But some of the people here who actually are also music lovers and collectors, know that there's a psychological barrier for some of you downloaders out there. If someone posted a 128 kbps of the soundtrack, there would probably be less people bothering to download it because you NEED to have the FLAC to listen to on your system, even if sometimes that system might be a computer with 2W speakers or an iPod with Skullcandy phones. I agree, it is laughable.
Also, FLAC allows someone to burn a CD bit by bit identical to the Audio CD it was ripped from, and that allows for easier bootleg manufacture as well as hurting sales because who's going to buy something they already have in digital form? Yes, believe it or not, there are people who sell some of those limited edition CDs as bootlegs online, there's all kinds of people in this world.

So, excuse me if I'll stop in this thread as many times as I damn well please, because the fact you don't like my "stupid" position doesn't give you the right to tell me to move away from a topic that I have an opinion on. Deal with it.

Anyway, the cat's out of the bag now, so this is probably making the usual rounds. I'm glad I purchased my set, as this is a very special soundtrack thought to be lost for YEARS, and I'm happy Intrada took the time to restore it and re-release it for the fans of this great soundtrack.

I'm sure now that it is out in this form, there will be no shortage of people to start saying how it's a big disappointment, and how there's nothing new and how Intrada just slapped their name on the cover... it's amazing how enthusiasm dies out when instant gratification is available at the click of a button.

Duque
12-06-2012, 01:22 AM
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TazerMonkey
12-06-2012, 01:39 AM
The snozzberries taste like snozzberries.

tri2061990
12-06-2012, 06:55 AM


From 3-disc set released by INTRADA in 2012. If you want extras, buy it!

CD1
01. Prologue / Anvil Of Crom (03:39)
02. Riddle Of Steel / Riders Of Doom (05:40)
03. Gift Of Fury (03:51)
04. Column Of Sadness / Wheel Of Pain (04:10)
05. Pit Fights (02:40)
06. The Discipline Of Steel / Freedom Council (01:38)
07. Atlantean Sword (04:01)
08. Warm Welcome (02:06)
09. Wolf Witch (03:10)
10. Theology / Civilization (03:14)
11. Street Of Deviants (00:29)
12. Hopefuls At The Tower Of Set (02:22)
13. The Tower Of Set (05:38)
14. The Snake / Infidels (02:01)
15. The Tavern (01:14)
16. Wifeing (Love Theme From Conan The Barbarian) (02:11)
17. Indulgence / Mettle (01:15)
18. The Hall Of King Osric (01:23)
19. The Leaving / The Search (05:58)

CD2
01. The Mountain Of Power Procession (03:22)
02. Capture (00:52)
03. Tree Of Woe / Recovery (05:46)
04. Warpaint (01:01)
05. The Kitchen / The Orgy (06:30)
06. The Defilers (05:16)
07. Funeral Pyre (04:32)
08. Battle Of The Mounds - Part I (04:52)
09. Battle Of The Mounds - Part II (02:16)
10. Battle Of The Mounds - Part III (Revised) / Night Of Doom (05:36)
11. Head Chop (00:57)
12. Orphans Of Doom / The Awakening (05:33)
13. Conan The King / End Title (05:28)


Basil Poledouris(composer and conductor)
Members of The Orchestra and Chorus of St. Cecilia and The Radio Symphony of Rome

http://www.adrive.com/public/XPNFAQ/BslPds-CnBrn012.part1.rar
http://www.adrive.com/public/kqb7Ta/BslPds-CnBrn012.part2.rar

originalscore
12-06-2012, 07:17 AM
Thanks

RudiRe
12-06-2012, 07:47 AM
Thank you.

DaveKramer
12-06-2012, 07:55 AM
Dave, you would have to pm the OP,showads, I would think.
Exactly, showads PMed me and sent me the links and, of course, I greatly thanked him.

Arial
12-06-2012, 11:08 AM
First of all, it's pretty valid discussion. I don't know why you claim that it is "useless" controversy. It's useless to you, maybe, but several people have been trading points of view here about the topic at hand, another thread has been created to discuss it more generally and 2 Mods and the Administrator of this forum have chimed in to the conversation, so I don't think it's as useless as you claim. You probably just think it's useless because all you care is having your little link "wham-bam thank you mam", and your minimal interaction with strangers on the internet is done and over.

I know from the law's side, both mp3 and FLAC are equally bad. But some of the people here who actually are also music lovers and collectors, know that there's a psychological barrier for some of you downloaders out there. If someone posted a 128 kbps of the soundtrack, there would probably be less people bothering to download it because you NEED to have the FLAC to listen to on your system, even if sometimes that system might be a computer with 2W speakers or an iPod with Skullcandy phones. I agree, it is laughable.
Also, FLAC allows someone to burn a CD bit by bit identical to the Audio CD it was ripped from, and that allows for easier bootleg manufacture as well as hurting sales because who's going to buy something they already have in digital form? Yes, believe it or not, there are people who sell some of those limited edition CDs as bootlegs online, there's all kinds of people in this world.

So, excuse me if I'll stop in this thread as many times as I damn well please, because the fact you don't like my "stupid" position doesn't give you the right to tell me to move away from a topic that I have an opinion on. Deal with it.

Anyway, the cat's out of the bag now, so this is probably making the usual rounds. I'm glad I purchased my set, as this is a very special soundtrack thought to be lost for YEARS, and I'm happy Intrada took the time to restore it and re-release it for the fans of this great soundtrack.

I'm sure now that it is out in this form, there will be no shortage of people to start saying how it's a big disappointment, and how there's nothing new and how Intrada just slapped their name on the cover... it's amazing how enthusiasm dies out when instant gratification is available at the click of a button.

Exactly ! Then I wonder what took you to take your brand new CDs you just bought and thought about that site and upload a rip right away. ... You wanted to share it obviously. But maybe understand there's NO share for such a release. You can only give it away to some greedy people or to ones who don't have the discipline to wait for it to arrive in their mail box. Only hard collectors are able to SHARE something on such a forum, and that goes with the spirit of collection. "I WANT it ALL", "I WANT it NOW", "GIVE it to ME" is all but collector's behaviour...

Collectors are most likely hunting for rare stuff, OOP's or worthy bootlegs. Rarely new released masterpieces like this cause it's obviously a "must have", even for my neighboor, mind. My own copy is waiting for me in a store right now and I will enjoy it much more as I even haven't downloaded it, only listening to the Intrada's site samples that let me a nice taste. :)

Also I'm ready to bet most people who will complain because you removed your stuff have never started a thread on this site. Don't lose your time bud. Just enjoy what you have bought and avoid thinking you'll save anybody's life on this forum posting such a great new release. ;-)

And to all those who can't wait to have it in their hand: read a book, or do something. Have a life anyway.

Petros
12-06-2012, 11:29 AM
Many thanks.

alexandrabruno
12-06-2012, 11:39 AM
thank you very much

comandancoucheto
12-06-2012, 12:15 PM
Yeah, thanks !

Pangare
12-06-2012, 02:53 PM
Thank you!

frater_mavros
12-06-2012, 03:19 PM
I'm confused about your reply. Are you replying to me or showads, the guy who actually posted the FLAC of Conan from someone else's rip?

frater_mavros
12-06-2012, 03:22 PM
Why did you create a duplicate thread of this one?
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/conan-barbarian-basil-poledouris-intrada-1982-2012-a-123936/2.html

There is already a Conan mp3 thread, which apparently also has someone giving away FLAC by PM. So, I don't see the point of this thread...

EDIT: It seems the threads have been Mod-merged. Good job.

tri2061990
12-06-2012, 03:39 PM
I upload PUBLIC flac links, complete score ONLY. It's not duplicate .If you don't see the difference ,check your reading.

the marvin
12-06-2012, 05:13 PM
Thanks! Definitely one of the greatest scores of all times!

frater_mavros
12-06-2012, 05:21 PM
I upload PUBLIC flac links, complete score ONLY. It's not duplicate .If you don't see the difference ,check your reading.

No, I don't see the difference. There's currently 4 threads for the Intrada Conan release in this forum, it's ridiculous.
Not to mention this is the same thing as showads posted, 2 discs instead of three, so it's not even the full release. It's completely pointless.

And I agree with your final line in the OP:

"Go buy it!"

tri2061990
12-06-2012, 05:23 PM
What is your point? If I violate some rule, you can ask MOD to delete my thread.
If I do nothing wrong, stop complain because you feel/see blah blah

I don't have to post according to your desire.

showads
12-06-2012, 07:24 PM
At the risk of adding to this "pointless" thread, I now have disc 3 in FLAC as well. PM for the links.

Perhaps a moderator could re-name the thread to reflect this :)

frater_mavros
12-06-2012, 08:36 PM
4 threads for the same thing, despite the fact it's FLAC or mp3, especially when there's a thread already offering both versions is clutter. I'm just stating the obvious.

Arial
12-06-2012, 10:12 PM
I'm confused about your reply. Are you replying to me or showads, the guy who actually posted the FLAC of Conan from someone else's rip?

Yeah sorry, I thought you were the guy from the OP in the same time than starting the discussion. ;-)

Anyway, that whole discussion doesn't bothers me at all. If it bothers it's because you nail something... something right that concerns every brand new releases threads whatever they are. The music from Conan touches certainly more score lovers like you then you feel suddenly more concerned by the crude truth (what Conan feels like) about the whole "sharing" falseness.

JacKc
12-07-2012, 12:44 AM
many thanks showads...you make my day !!!!

A gift for your thread :

(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/conanthebarbarianintrad.jpg/)

showads
12-07-2012, 06:32 PM
many thanks showads...you make my day !!!!

A gift for your thread :

(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/conanthebarbarianintrad.jpg/)

thankyou :)

theleperking
12-08-2012, 12:46 PM
Many, many thanks for one of the best scores ever, finally in its proper form!

Trian
12-08-2012, 12:52 PM
I must agree with theleperking, thanks for one of the best scores ever!

Spectre8750
12-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Thanks tri

---------- Post added at 04:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:49 PM ----------

Thanks showads

lubitsch
12-17-2012, 11:39 PM
thank you

docrate1
12-29-2012, 03:08 AM
Track 13 of the 3rd disc is new release and not on any previous release.
13. Prologue (W/Narration)/Anvil Of Crom 3:39

Also the 3rd disc is a reprint of the original Milan publication NOT the banned Varese Sarabande release. Milan is 12 tracks and Varese Sarabande is 16.
Can anyone post it?

Actually, track 13 was available as track 1 on the international release of the milan release.

As for the other tracks you mention Amanda:

Tower of Set is when we get our first look at the towers interior, while Drexor is praying, and the ceremony hasn't started. At least I think.

"Las Cantiguas" is the track heard DURING the ceremony, when the cult member is getting ready to jump down in the snake pit. all the while Conan is Stealing the Eye of Set, then is caught by the symbol of Set and looks at it while the snake awakens.

Finally "The Snake/Infidels" is a two part, as the name implies: "THe snake" plays while Conan and Subotai are finishing the snake, and the cult member jumps down the pit. "Infidels" is the escape scene.

I'd need to rewatch the movie with the score on hand to make sure of what I'm saying, but I'm pretty sure of myself.

Amanda
12-29-2012, 03:33 AM
Well, I've got the booklet scans now, that may reveal some things.

odinson
12-29-2012, 09:44 AM
Tower of Set is when we get our first look at the towers interior, while Drexor is praying, and the ceremony hasn't started. At least I think.

"Las Cantiguas" is the track heard DURING the ceremony, when the cult member is getting ready to jump down in the snake pit. all the while Conan is Stealing the Eye of Set, then is caught by the symbol of Set and looks at it while the snake awakens.

Finally "The Snake/Infidels" is a two part, as the name implies: "THe snake" plays while Conan and Subotai are finishing the snake, and the cult member jumps down the pit. "Infidels" is the escape scene.

I'd need to rewatch the movie with the score on hand to make sure of what I'm saying, but I'm pretty sure of myself.

Sorry, but you are incorrect.

Neither "The Snake" nor "Tower of Set" plays in the movie. AT ALL.

An edited version of "Hopefuls at the Tower of Set" plays as Conan and Subotai meet Valeria outside the tower. It plays for a little over 1 minute.

"Las Cantigas de Santa Maria" (it's actually Cantiga #166, "Como poden per sas culpas") plays for the whole time the trio is inside the tower (both before and during the killig of the snake), until the fast-paced "Infidels" plays as they escape (after the snake is dead, and the sacrificial virgin hits the floor of the snakepit and screams, and Rexor orders a chase).


Well, I've got the booklet scans now, that may reveal some things.

Also beware the booklet is wrong on a few things ;) For example, it says "Wolf Witch" plays as Conan and the witch have sex. NOPE...that music also does NOT appear in the movie. "Warm Welcome" is the music looped all the way through the witch scene, both outside AND inside her hut.

docrate1
12-29-2012, 01:44 PM
Just checked, you're right on "The Snake", "Tower of Set" and "Wolf Witch". Although that's all the more music for us to enjoy :D

unulufuntu
12-29-2012, 02:51 PM
here at 3:27, cantiga 166. In a previous compilation I had it named as "Stealing the Eye of the Serpent"
Cantiga 166 "Como poden per sas culpas" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPphy89lvao)

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