Hans Zimmer
06-22-2012, 01:06 AM
A suite from this film score, which was never released on LP or CD, was poorly re-recorded by Sillva, but the score is
much better than that...

http://eu.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/9/b70-4807

The movie has (mysteriously) completely vanished from this planet. John Barry himself wasn't very fond of this score.
But remember: This is John Barry in 1965. You can't get any better than that.

We really NEED a release of the original tracks! In the movie, it sounds like this:

MISTER MOSES 1965 - Robert Mitchum, Carroll Baker, Ian Bannen - YouTube

Let's call this archaeology:

"Mister Moses
by ianmac � Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:00 pm

I have been a Barry addict since 1958 and in the 60's had regular chats with Tony Palmer, A&R man at the UA label. Around 1964 he showed me a proof of a forthcoming album of this score. It had, I recall, 13 tracks with some of them being commercial instrumental extensions. The sleeve featured Elephant Emily in the foreground with Mitchum on its head and Baker walking beside, with a montage of scenes from the film in the background. The title ' Mister Moses' in large grey type over the top and Music Composed etc at the base more or less bottom right hand. It was numbered around SULP/ULP 1090, but in view of its non release this number may have been allocated to another project. Anyway a guy called Frank Ross, who I think was the films producer threw a spoke in the wheel and there was a major disagreement and nothing was released. Tony would not disclose details but said it centred around royalties/rights issues. In the 1990's I spoke to Vic Lanza, archivist at EMI, when he was researching the 'EMI years' CD's, and asked him to look for this item in the vaults at Abbey Road - No sign of it!! - it was almost as if it had never existed!! Maybe the film Company took it all back, from those days forth it completely disappeared!!"

If such a source existed, and they printed sleeves, too - then we MUST FIND IT.

We just haven't searched enough.

Hans

jport4748
06-22-2012, 01:39 AM
Agreed! This is a great score. Never on TV anymore ...PC police I'm sure as the film is a little dated.

justin boggan
06-22-2012, 02:07 AM
Agreed! This is a great score. Never on TV anymore ...PC police I'm sure as the film is a little dated.

I try to keep a list of scores where the master tapes are misplaced, lost, destroyed, or just plain deteriorated beyond use:

Lost Master Tapes of Film Scores (http://www.rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/lost.html)

Hans Zimmer
06-22-2012, 03:26 PM
The erased ones. Damn the big cigar producers.

Bioscope
06-22-2012, 05:29 PM
Why do I get the feeling this poster is the real deal, according to his username? If not he certainly knows his way around the music industry...

If so, please can someone revive me?

justin boggan
06-22-2012, 07:29 PM
Why do I get the feeling this poster is the real deal, according to his username? If not he certainly knows his way around the music industry...

If so, please can someone revive me?

The real Hans Zimmer is head of film music at DreamWorks. For the real Zimmer to post here, a place not looked on kindly by rights owners like DreamWorks, would be highly unprofessional.

I suspect he's just taking on Zimmer's persona, since he really, really likes him (God only knows why) and likely shares the same first name, "Hans". Last name is probably widley different. Hans Grueber. Hans Smith. Hans Wanker. Never know.

Hans Zimmer
06-22-2012, 09:17 PM
Bioscope, Justin, mind if I cut in?
If I were the real Hans Zimmer - which, btw, wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world - wouldn't it be the
weirdest thing in the world then to chose 'Hans Zimmer' as my username? Think about it.
Nothing out there.

Hans

justin boggan
06-22-2012, 09:33 PM
Bioscope, Justin, mind if I cut in?
If I were the real Hans Zimmer - which, btw, wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world - wouldn't it be the
weirdest thing in the world then to chose 'Hans Zimmer' as my username? Think about it.
Nothing out there.

Hans

Actually, off the top of my head, film composers Chris Tilton and Vincent Gillioz both posts using their real names, on FilmScoreMonthly.com.
So, no -- it is not beyond the realm that a real composer would use their real name.

Hans Zimmer
06-23-2012, 01:43 AM
Jim Wynorski has this story to tell:

"I worked for United Artists Records way back in 1979(when I first came out to Los Angeles from New York), and I actually held the 15ips MISTER MOSES music tapes in my hand one fateful day. They were stored at a little recording studio on Melrose Avenue(now long, long gone). The place was full of masters that would have made any soundtrack fan drool. Most all of it was thrown in the dumpster when UA split with EMI.

The thing I remember most was finding seven boxes of 35mm magnetic tape containing the entire score of THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY -- all seperated on to three distinct channels in case they wanted to ever do a widescreen stereo mix of the movie. I put a reel up on the main deck at lunch hour one afternoon and the sound was truly magnificent - and I could even raise the chorus and lower the trumpets. How cool was that!

I should have thrown it all in the trunk of my car and driven off. Now it's all landfill somewhere in the San Fernando Valley. Sad."

Sanico
06-23-2012, 02:02 AM
Actually, off the top of my head, film composers Chris Tilton and Vincent Gillioz both posts using their real names, on FilmScoreMonthly.com.
So, no -- it is not beyond the realm that a real composer would use their real name.

Chris Tilton is also a member of the forum, but he haven't posted anything in years.

There also another composer (Mike Verta), who actually has been active in the forum for a while, mostly in the orchestral thread to talk about his music, hear what members have to say of his works, and giving opinions about the current state of film music.
Very kind person, but sadly he stopped participating in the forum all of a sudden.

I don't know any more composers registered with their own names, but i wouldn't be surprised if there are some few professional composers registered with anonymous names...

Hans Zimmer
06-23-2012, 02:24 AM
Hm. I doubt it.

mverta
06-25-2012, 02:46 AM
There also another composer (Mike Verta), who actually has been active in the forum for a while, mostly in the orchestral thread to talk about his music, hear what members have to say of his works, and giving opinions about the current state of film music.
Very kind person, but sadly he stopped participating in the forum all of a sudden.

Just busy. :)

_Mike

Sanico
06-25-2012, 05:10 AM
It's nice to see you again Mr. Verta, we all miss your thoughtful comments on the forum!

Hope to see you around a bit more. But of course much more important than that, is that you have lots of projects ahead on your career :)

Anaximander
09-25-2014, 11:16 PM
Silva Screen just released a version recorded by Nic Raine and the Prague Philharmonic.

Exterminate Me
11-01-2014, 01:09 AM
It always makes me sad when things are destroyed, especially music, film and TV!