Hi all,

I've had this knocking around for sometime now, I never really realise until now that what I have is quite unique. As far as I'm aware and after much searching there is NO original score for Raise The Titanic, only Nic Raine's re-recording, which I have never been convinced on anyway. Then there's the DVD source, which sadly is mono (just checked my copy). However -- there was a laserdisc release which featured stereo audio. I somehow, in my infinite wisdom ripped some of the soundtrack when I owned a Laserdisc player back in the day. I've kept it ever since. It's not the best quality in the world, one of the tracks I had to digitally remove the click as the laserdisc wasn't great quality. But here are 3 tracks from the score, the Overture, Main Titles and End Titles, all in stereo and all 100% John Barry.

Sorry I couldn't supply any more but I hope this will be some small piece of unearthed rareness.

Enjoy (MP3 @ 320k) (http://www.mediafire.com/?j3h5fj6643q5duq)

Tracks:

Raise the Titanic - Overture
Raise the Titanic - Main Titles
Raise the Titanic - End Credits (fully recreated)


Hyperjase

EDIT -- Updated link for newer, better quality files.

You are indeed a retriever of lost treasures!

all the best
Hans

Yay for rare scores! Thank you!

Personally I like the Nic Raine re-recording with The City Of Prague Philharmonic, Silva Screen Records put out a nice HDCD in 1999.

I rented the LaserDisc years ago but did not listen to the isolated score on that one.

Thank you for raising these rare JB tracks from Titanic! Great efforts!

Thanks for sharing. It really is a travesty that the original recordings for this score have been lost, or to look at it optimistically, yet to be found again!

Personally I like the Nic Raine re-recording with The City Of Prague Philharmonic, Silva Screen Records put out a nice HDCD in 1999.

I rented the LaserDisc years ago but did not listen to the isolated score on

I just have a thing with re-recordings, I've never fully listened to Nic Raine's version so I have yet to draw a full conclusion. There's sadly no isolated score this is merely just what I was able to rip from the film itself.

I was quite surprised that the DVD version is only mono but I suspect because a widescreen source, as far as I remember the laserdisc was pan and scan.

Only have 3 tracks?

Sadly yes, I captured these around 12 years ago when I had my Laserdisc player, I think at the time I realised there was no score available and to take matters in to my own hands. There was no surround track only stereo sound couldn't have extracted rear channels and made a complete score that way. I took only the music that was clean - the Overture, just about all of the Main Titles and the End Credits. It does appear that there may be a cut point on the end credits to enable me to create a "complete" end credit sequence. That's something I'll attempt to do in the next few days. I am hoping for a BluRay release with at least a 5.1 mix, then I'll embark on extracting the score from that source.

It's a shame they can't do what they did with The Towering Inferno and use the 35mm film to pull the score from. That would be the next best option to locating the original score tapes.

One of the things that i can't understand is how something like a music recording of a movie can be lost. I mean, is it really that hard (or expensive) for the studios, to catalog the tapes and hold them in their vaults for preservation?

Because after all those tapes are in first instance their property, yet gives the impression that they aren't treated properly as if were a lesser element of a movie.

One of the things that i can't understand is how something like a music recording of a movie can be lost. I mean, is it really that hard (or expensive) for the studios, to catalog the tapes and hold them in their vaults for preservation?

Because after all those tapes are in first instance their property, yet gives the impression that they aren't treated properly as if were a lesser element of a movie.

ITC Entertainment that distributed the film lost a ton of money on this film, like over 30 Million dollars and that was in 1980,so I surmised they wanted to flush the whole damn thing.

lovely. thanks

One of the things that i can't understand is how something like a music recording of a movie can be lost. I mean, is it really that hard (or expensive) for the studios, to catalog the tapes and hold them in their vaults for preservation?

Because after all those tapes are in first instance their property, yet gives the impression that they aren't treated properly as if were a lesser element of a movie.

It's said the company made the film went bankruptcy and was no longer existing. So their properties were probably all in the tip.

It was a huge flop which is a shame as it was a good story, I had a good search for the making of and found that the miniature of the titanic was around 50 feet long and cost �5m alone back in 1980. It still exists now but has rotted away slowly but surely.

Let's hope it's a possibilty of going to back to film stock to restore this magnificent score to listening quality.

That must be where a lot of budget went .... shooting in 70mm!

This was such a garbage film based on a great book. Indulgent rewriting instead of keeping to the source. I have refused to ever watch it again. I have the rerecording, yet I still have a dim memory of the opening titles being real images of the ship with only a piano playing. Nevertheless, in most cases of utter failure a company will destroy most the materiel for tax reasons. In the case of this film there wasn't a bonfire big enough. The rerecording is okay. Never much loved Nick Raines versions of John Barry. Like the Marco Polo re recordings they tend to lack passion. Paint by numbers. The Chandos stuff is pretty much the same, too.

I liked the movie as a kid and continute to love the score as an adult... John Barry.. we miss you so! Tell Jerry I said hello....

We really need the original tracks from MISTER MOSES!
Anyone?

Here's an alternate track for the End Credits, I've manged to create a proper start point that doesn't just fade in ... it is actually a cut from the version I uploaded originally but I challenge you to find the cut point!

Raise the Titanic - End Credits (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?sirkelu5odpem4q)

HJ

--EDIT--

Here is a major update, I've just checked the DVD I have and despite the fact it claims "mono" on the case it's actually a stereo soundtrack! I've extracted the complete audio and here are the three tracks in better quality (encoded @ 320k). I've re-created the tracks again and have uploaded them. They're better quality sounding, despite the fact the soundtrack is a touch iffy (likely source I would have imagined).

I doubt there's anything else I can extract is it's only a 2.0 track and no rear tracks to reference from.

Keeping this alive!

Raise the Titanic (@320k) (http://www.mediafire.com/?j3h5fj6643q5duq)

The story behind this soundtrack is tragic. It was written in a period of time when John Barry wrote some of his greatest, most emotional scores ever. The film was released in the summer of 1980 and the score recorded the previous winter. In the following months Barry would write "High Road To China", Body Heat", "Hanover Street" and of course his most beautiful romantic score for "Somewhere in Time". (That is another interesting story.) I saw an interview with him that stated that they were written around the time of both his parent's deaths and he felt that was an influence.

The loss of the original six track tapes happened when AFD, the studio that financed "Raise the Titanic" went bankrupt and it's assets sold off. The tapes were part of a lot of recordings from all of their films. (The studio only lasted about three years.) More than likely they were destroyed or even more sadly recorded over as the blank tapes were very expensive to purchase.

What surprises me is that no one ever kept a stereo mixdown copy of the one made for the 70mm stereo optical track. It's a true shame as I think it is one of his very, very best scores.

I wold really like to have your mono isolated score. As far as I know, there has not been a release of the film on DVD in the U.S. Would you post it up?

Thanks!

Somewhere In Time his most beautiful romantic score? Even Christopher Plummer thought it was corny. His masterpiece remains Lion in Winter and for romance I'd vote Out of Africa. There are better films that deserve DVD release, so I won't weep for a lack of American interest.

I don't believe anyone asked your opinion. You are however, entitled to it. Of course he wrote some gorgeous stuff like "Out of Africa" and "Dancing With Wolves". Even scores that came later like "Masquerade" were beautiful. As for the film? It SUCKED! The score however was fantastic. I want to see a solid DVD release first and for most for the score and the sequence of the ship being raised in widescreen. Otherwise it was terrible. Also, we tend to remember our favorites as they are coupled with a memorable and or impressionable time in our lives. "The Lion in Winter" is great yes, but a few years before my time. The late 70's and early 80's were my formative years when I was learning to really appreciate music. "The Lion in Winter" is more than likely your favorite for your own reasons as are mine.

I wold really like to have your mono isolated score. As far as I know, there has not been a release of the film on DVD in the U.S. Would you post it up? Thanks!

Sadly there is no mono isolated score, however I'm going to attempt to remove all the score from the 2.0 track, this will contain sound effects and some dialogue but I'm goint to try to remove as much as is possible. I will try a sample later to see if it's feasable or not. The DVD is available on eBay and it sells here for around �8. The raising bit is good in widescreen, it would be interesting to see if it'll ever make it to blu-ray.

Will keep you posted on the score rip.

HJ

Any chance for the Nic rain recording in Flac? I like rerecordings of great music - the more the merrier. Somewhere in time is stunning. Stunning I tell you.

I don't believe anyone asked your opinion. .

OH! But I assure you, it is a great pleasure to share my opinion. Anytime. ;-)

Sorry that Lion in Winter is before your time. Happily you can rent this masterpiece. Sadly you can rent Somewhere in Time that was, I remember Christopher Reeve on The Tonight show telling Johnny Carson, an attempt to recall the classic PORTRAIT OF JENNIE. Instead it was a crappy movie that wasn't even close with a VERY popular Barry score that IN MY OPINION also gave a number of people cavities. Korngold was doubtlessly also before your time but I suggest investigating his masterful efforts too. ;-)

Thanks!

Thank you VERY much! I've always thought this was one of Barry's best scores along with Somewhere in Time and the Bond films.

Thanks!

i would like to see a link for the re-recording as well as this fine share. thank you.

Ironically, You have raised The Titanic! Many thanks.

Sadly, a lost score....Thank You so much for your efforts!

thank you

Thanks