(1964) Bernard Herrmann - Marnie (bootleg)
FLAC + SCANS

Mediafire:
(1964) BERNARD HERRMANN - Marnie.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?vpv5up3dwqwa64l)

Scans:
Marnie Cvrs.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?6k1gakt2srvxo53)

Thank you.

And... Thanks.

thank you! Anyone has idea about the re-recording on VS? Is that also a good one to look for?

Can someone repost? Link is dead.

A Marnie bootleg ?!! Never heard of it : is it the complete OST ? If so could someone re-up it (in FLAC if possible).

I second that :) very nice

i'd like a reup as well, if posisble

Yes, me, too, please... :)

thank

Link dead~ Reupload please

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Anyone ?

I could upload a CD-Rip I found on the usenet (could be another rip than this). But you should know that track 11 is missing. I also have found a LP rip, but that one sounds pretty awful. Nevertheless, I could add track 11 from the LP rip, to complete the score.

If you can wait a week or so, I could rip the complete CD again (including, of course, track 11), since I have the original CD. (Have to look for it first, which may take a few days...).

Either way, let me know what you prefer...

If you can wait a week or so, I could rip the complete CD again (including, of course, track 11), since I have the original CD. (Have to look for it first, which may take a few days...).

Either way, let me know what you prefer...

I could even wait a month for sure ! I guess your original CD will be a better source.

Man, that's awesome... The rerecording is not bad at all but none can beat that Herrmann's touch !

I believe many people will be VERY happy with your new FLAC upload of that rare gem !

Thank you very much in advance !

Okay, then, a new rip will follow soon from me, and in flac. BTW, since phbart didn't identify this bootleg exactly: my CD is from Tsunami records, a German bootleg company which released many score bootlegs, and was released in 1994 (Tsunami TCI 0601, 20 tracks with 49:23 min of music). This may very well be the rip phbart uploaded, though.

BTW, this bootleg sounds astonishlingy crisp and clear, for a bootleg, that is. Whoever was responsible for it, he did a good job! I was really happy when I was able to get a copy of it, 15 years ago, and for a reasonable price! On ebay, they are offered for about 35 US-$ these days...

looking forward to it :)

BTW, this bootleg sounds astonishlingy crisp and clear, for a bootleg, that is. Whoever was responsible for it, he did a good job! I was really happy when I was able to get a copy of it, 15 years ago, and for a reasonable price! On ebay, they are offered for about 35 US-$ these days...

Yes ! The source Tsunami used was the LP - and maybe the album master itself - that had been released in 1974 : that's why it sounds so crisp and clear.

Great news ! I'm thrilled !

Yes ! The source Tsunami used was the LP - and maybe the album master itself - that had been released in 1974 : that's why it sounds so crisp and clear.

Great news ! I'm thrilled !

I don't know which source they used, there are two LP versions. The first from 1974 which you mention (Sound Stage 2306) has two tracks (one on each side):

1. Marnie - A Symphonic Poem - Part 1 (25:08)
2. Marnie - A Symphonic Poem - Part 2 (26:05).

This LP has 51:13 min, as opposed to the 49:23 min of the Tsunami release, so this doesn't seem to be the source.

The second LP release from 1975 (Crimson CR 101) has 24 tracks at 48:34 min., while the Tsunami CD has 49:23 min. with 20 tracks. This seems to be the source, at least the track names are identical. Tsunami chose to merge 8 of the 24 tracks into 4 tracks (The Morning After / Rutland Cottage and the three 2-part tracks "Obsessions 1 and 2", "The Nightmare 1 and 2", and "The Resolution 1 and 2"). That doesn't explain the longer runtime, though. Maybe the LP was somehow speeded up, to get all the material on the two sides of the LP? That would mean Tsunami had access to the original masters and could re-arrange the tracks for the CD release. I will have to look after the LP rip I have on one of my drives, to verify this.

BTW, this weekend I plan to look after the Tsunami CD (which is still somewhere in my old room in my mom's house, where I will be one of the next days!). Next monday or so I may be able to rip it and upload it for you. Stay tuned...

I don't know which source they used, there are two LP versions. The first from 1974 which you mention (Sound Stage 2306) has two tracks (one on each side):
This LP has 51:13 min, as opposed to the 49:23 min of the Tsunami release, so this doesn't seem to be the source.
The second LP release from 1975 (Crimson CR 101) has 24 tracks at 48:34 min., while the Tsunami CD has 49:23 min. with 20 tracks. This seems to be the source, That doesn't explain the longer runtime, though. Maybe the LP was somehow speeded up, to get all the material on the two sides of the LP? That would mean Tsunami had access to the original masters and could re-arrange the tracks for the CD release. I will have to look after the LP rip I have on one of my drives, to verify this.

Very interesting : it would be great if you could enlight us. And I just love those soundtrack mysteries !



BTW, this weekend I plan to look after the Tsunami CD (which is still somewhere in my old room in my mom's house,).

Oh my God !!!!!! What if it has gone with a yard sale ??!!!!! :(

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Oh my God !!!!!! What if it has gone with a yard sale ??!!!!! :(

Nah, my mom wouldn't do that, she loves me! Or would she...? Have to phone her... gimme a minute... (runs to look for his cellphone...) Where is it? Where is it? DAMNED!!! STAY TUNED...

TSUNAMI
https://rapidshare.com/files/1746410373/Marnie.zip

Thanks for the share, aescalle. Is it lossy or lossless? At 70 MB, I would think it's mp3/320, right? If so, I will go on with ripping it in flac, as promised (for those who need it)!

Thanks for the share, aescalle. Is it lossy or lossless? At 70 MB, I would think it's mp3/320, right? If so, I will go on with ripping it in flac, as promised (for those who need it)!
320KB

320KB

not quite, just 192KB. Please be more accurate next time, thanks.

Flac to follow next week.

not quite, just 192KB. Please be more accurate next time, thanks.

Flac to follow next week.
To bad, not the good one!
192KB still OK?

To bad, not the good one!
192KB still OK?

It will be good enough for some, and not for others. I don't want to compete with you, I'm just going to provide an alternative, so everybody can pick what he wants! And, I wasn't criticising your upload, just your wrong bitrate information. ;)

It will be good enough for some, and not for others. I don't want to compete with you, I'm just going to provide an alternative, so everybody can pick what he wants! And, I wasn't criticising your upload, just your wrong bitrate information. ;)
Yes sorry, i ve checked the wrong Herrmann file...

Yes sorry, i ve checked the wrong Herrmann file...

No harm done, my friend! ;)

not quite, just 192KB. Please be more accurate next time, thanks.

Flac to follow next week.

Thanks in advance for FLAC!!!!!

Marnie (Tsunami, 1994) in FLAC, including 4-page-booklet scan:

BH_Mar_Tsun.rar - 216.8 MB (http://www.sendmyway.com/3xw28k078tqu)

Note: On page 3 of the booklet the text, which was copied from the 1975 LP (Crimson CR 101) ends in mid-sentence:

"... If "Marnie" with Herrmann's music is undistguished [sic!], then "Marnie" without Herrmann's" [end of text]

On the back of the LP the sentence continues: "... music would be unwatchable."

Funny, how Tsunami copied the text of the LP, INCLUDING the mistake ("undistguished" instead of the correct "undistinguished").

BTW, the LP had an additional chapter on its back ("The Story"). For those interested, I have added scans of the Crimson LP artwork (found it on the internet, it's in rather low resolution!, sorry!)

Also added is a scan of a movie poster!

Best regards,
Soundtrekker

I simply can't find any words good enough to express my feelings about your post... :)

A post to remember.

I simply can't find any words good enough to express my feelings about your post... :)

A post to remember.

You're welcome, Robert! Enjoy!

Thanks so much for the FLAC!!

Funny, how Tsunami copied the text of the LP, INCLUDING the mistake ("undistguished" instead of the correct "undistinguished").



English isn't Tsunami's first language, so no surprise.

Thank you for your efforts!

English isn't Tsunami's first language, so no surprise.

Thank you for your efforts!

You're quite correct, koala, it's a German label!

BTW, I'm German, too! ;)

You're quite correct, koala, it's a German label!

BTW, I'm German, too! ;)

Hey soundtrekker... would you happen to have the 1999 Paris Opera/James Conlon recording of Vertigo in FLAC?

Hey soundtrekker... would you happen to have the 1999 Paris Opera/James Conlon recording of Vertigo in FLAC?

No, just the 320 version which was uploaded recently.

Thanks a lot for the flac-version of Marnie :) will be very interesting to listen to

Will listen thanks

Originally Posted by soundtrekker:
I don't know which source they used, there are two LP versions. The first from 1974 which you mention (Sound Stage 2306) has two tracks (one on each side):
This LP has 51:13 min, as opposed to the 49:23 min of the Tsunami release, so this doesn't seem to be the source.
The second LP release from 1975 (Crimson CR 101) has 24 tracks at 48:34 min., while the Tsunami CD has 49:23 min. with 20 tracks. This seems to be the source, That doesn't explain the longer runtime, though. Maybe the LP was somehow speeded up, to get all the material on the two sides of the LP? That would mean Tsunami had access to the original masters and could re-arrange the tracks for the CD release. I will have to look after the LP rip I have on one of my drives, to verify this.

Very interesting : it would be great if you could enlight us. And I just love those soundtrack mysteries !

Okay, I have played both the main title from the LP rip (Crimson CR 101, 1:54 min.) and the Tsunami CD (2:04), and the LP track is indeed pitched up, compared to the Tsunami track! Now, what does it mean? The LP came first, so I think what happened was they decided to speed the tracks up by a factor of roughly 1.08 (that's a speed-up of 8 %), to match the capacity of a LP. But now, we have a new mystery here: I did the math and reduced the 49:23 min. of the Tsunami CD by a factor of 8 %, and came to roughly 45:40 min, but NOT 49:23 from the LP. Now, that mystery was quickly solved: I looked at the LP tracks myself, and they added up to just 46:15 min, so the entry on soundtrackcollector.com is clearly a mistake (the LP Back cover, btw, doesn't feature track names and length, so someone must have played the LP and made an error with the duration.) Now, that COULD mean the LP does have 30 or 40 seconds more material, so I compared the two releases track for track. That's when I found another mystery: when comparing the 20 Tsunami tracks with the 24 Crimson tracks, there are the same track names (including some tracks on the LP being split up into part 1 and 2, as mentioned in one of my earlier posts, and one case of Tsunami merging two LP tracks names into one track), but several tracks (mostly the second half of the score) contain completely different music with different length compared to the Tsunami CD! I will have to study the scores further to determine if there is, indeed, some new material. In the end, this means, when Tsunami released the CD, they
1. sped down the music (this begs, btw, the question: was the LP speed correct in the first place? I have to check the DVD of the movie to answer that question. In that case, the Tsunami speed is, of course, too slow, but that wouldn't make any sense, now, would it?)
2. arranged the tracks new, but didn't change the track NAMES (maybe they didn't care for the track names to make any sense; all they tried to do was probably arrange the tracks into the correct order, as heard in the movie - have to check that, too!)

If interested, I could upload the Crimson LP rip for further study.

Here is an mp3 version of some unknown Marnie LP rip with high quality artwork scans:
Marnie LP rip.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/W0hUqLQt/Marnie_LP_rip.html)

I posted this yesterday in the Vertigo thread by mistake. Not sure what the source LP was, maybe a bootleg. I found this somewhere on the net.

Thanks for the upload, egosheep! Too bad there is no more info on that one - it's odd that it has 33 tracks, because on soundtrackcollector.com there are listed just the two LP releases I mentioned in an earlier post (Crimson CR 101 and Sound Stage 2306), both of which don't have 33 tracks! Furthermore, I finally played the first 2 minutes of the movie (Main Title) on youtube and compared it to the speed of the Crimson main title, and the Crimson LP seems indeed to have been sped up! The unknown LP rip from egosheep, on the other hand, matches the movie speed (as does, as a matter of fact, the TSUNAMI CD)! Very interesting!

I will have to study the scores further to determine if there is, indeed, some new material. In the end, this means, when Tsunami released the CD, they
1. sped down the music


That is amazing because I could have sworn the Tsunami actually had its music already sped up ! Not complaining at all, I've been enojoying that "blissing recording" for a few days now but, wow... that means the LP recording must quite a odd listening experience if it's even fastest than the Tsunami !




If interested, I could upload the Crimson LP rip for further study.

You have already done so much that would be maybe too much to ask you to do that. But, to be honest, with all those mysteries I literally water !!! Have you done your LP rip already or does it mean you should do a rip from your Crimson LP ?

That is amazing because I could have sworn the Tsunami actually had its music already sped up ! Not complaining at all, I've been enojoying that "blissing recording" for a few days now but, wow... that means the LP recording must quite a odd listening experience if it's even fastest than the Tsunami !

You have already done so much that would be maybe too much to ask you to do that. But, to be honest, with all those mysteries I literally water !!! Have you done your LP rip already or does it mean you should do a rip from your Crimson LP ?

I don't have the actual Crimson LP myself, just the ripped files themselves, as found in the internet. I will upload it, but, aside from the speeding up, its quality is quite horrible, to be honest. But, it's part of the soundtrack history of Marnie, so it still has its merit, at least for study purposes. I will upload it shortly!

The tempi of Herrmann's music as heard in the movies generally tend to be very fast; the original tempo for Psycho as conducted by Herrmann is the fastest of all the interpretations so far - all re-recordings of Psycho (including Herrmann's own, as a matter of fact!) are slower! A pristine, re-mastered presentation of the original tapes from Psycho would be wonderful, but other than a rather mediocre bootleg from the Laserdisc we don't have anything - that's a shame!

The same, regarding the tempo of the original movie score, seems to be the case with Marnie - Herrmann's own re-recording (his Decca recording of the suite with the London Philharmonic Orchestra from 1974) and the McNeely re-recording are slower too!

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Here is the Crimson LP-rip of Marnie, but be warned: only for study purposes, due to its horrible quality ;)

Crimson - BH-M.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/D3c2zM8L/Crimson_-_BH-M.html)

Thanks for the Crimson! Could it be that the one I uploaded was a rip of the two-track soundstage release that someone went through and isolated 33 cues from?

Thanks for the Crimson! Could it be that the one I uploaded was a rip of the two-track soundstage release that someone went through and isolated 33 cues from?

Yes, that idea also crossed my mind yesterday! But the Sound Stage 2-track LP has, according to soundtrackcollector.com, over 51 minutes, and your 33-track-rip adds up to only 48 minutes... now, again, it COULD have been sped up, couldn't it? ;)

As long as nobody has a rip from the Sound Stage LP, all we can do is speculate!

The tempi of Herrmann's music as heard in the movies generally tend to be very fast; the original tempo for Psycho as conducted by Herrmann is the fastest of all the interpretations so far - all re-recordings of Psycho (including Herrmann's own, as a matter of fact!) are slower! A pristine, re-mastered presentation of the original tapes from Psycho would be wonderful, but other than a rather mediocre bootleg from the Laserdisc we don't have anything - that's a shame!

Yes, the rerecording Herrmann did in the early 70s is rather disappointing if not boring, sorry to say that. And if one day you come across his rendition of Gershwin's I GOT RYTHM on a Phase 4 LP you'll just wonder yourself : "Hey ! There's a typo ! It's not I GOT RYTHM...should be I GOT NO RYTHM !
PSYCHO by McNeely is far more faithful to Herrmann's spirit of rage and anger. Well, let's wait and see. Some day the tapes will eventually leak as CAPE FEARs ones.[COLOR="Silver"]


Here is the Crimson LP-rip of Marnie, but be warned: only for study purposes, due to its horrible quality ;)

Crimson - BH-M.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/D3c2zM8L/Crimson_-_BH-M.html)

You're the fastest uploader in all world ! Don't worry : my purpose is purely scholar and I really enjoy this way ! Comparative studies in any area is what teach you the most.

Thanks !

Thank you!!!!

Thanks

Anyone has a rip from the Sound Stage 2306 two track recordings LP yet? Hard to find.... :)

Merci For the tsunami flac rip.

Merci For the tsunami flac rip.

You're most welcome, piotr!

You seem to have hidden treasures all over ffs my friend. Thanks for this. You know you are the best, what can I say. :D


Marnie (Tsunami, 1994) in FLAC, including 4-page-booklet scan:

Marnie (Tsunami) - Part 1 of 2.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/orirQFd6/Marnie__Tsunami__-_Part_1_of_2.html)

Marnie (Tsunami) - Part 2 of 2.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/_obz5D1D/Marnie__Tsunami__-_Part_2_of_2.html)


Note: On page 3 of the booklet the text, which was copied from the 1975 LP (Crimson CR 101) ends in mid-sentence:

"... If "Marnie" with Herrmann's music is undistguished [sic!], then "Marnie" without Herrmann's" [end of text]

On the back of the LP the sentence continues: "... music would be unwatchable."

Funny, how Tsunami copied the text of the LP, INCLUDING the mistake ("undistguished" instead of the correct "undistinguished").

BTW, the LP had an additional chapter on its back ("The Story"). For those interested, I have added scans of the Crimson LP artwork (found it on the internet, it's in rather low resolution!, sorry!)

Also added is a scan of a movie poster!

Best regards,
Soundtrekker

You seem to have hidden treasures all over ffs my friend. Thanks for this. You know you are the best, what can I say. :D

You're welcome, chalguss! :) However, part 1 seems to be down (part 2 is okay) - can you confirm that? If needed, I can re-upload the complete album! :)

You're welcome, chalguss! :) However, part 1 seems to be down (part 2 is okay) - can you confirm that? If needed, I can re-upload the complete album! :)

Part 1 is still down. Part 2 is still up.

You're welcome, chalguss! :) However, part 1 seems to be down (part 2 is okay) - can you confirm that? If needed, I can re-upload the complete album! :)

Many Many Thanks!

Oh, this looks nice! any chance of a re-up? thanks!

Oh, this looks nice! any chance of a re-up? thanks!

see my new link below (message # 61)!

Too late!
I just tried the links, but they are dead.

The links don't work for me either. Or rather, the 1st one doesn't:

" The file link that you requested is not valid. Please contact link publisher or try to make a search. "

New link:

BH_Mar_Tsun.rar - 216.8 MB (http://www.sendmyway.com/3xw28k078tqu)

New link added!

Awesome! Thanks!

The re-up was so quick!
Thank you for your consideration, my friend.

You're welcome, Muad'Dib & Petros!

Thank you.

That's awesome. Thank you.

Thanks soundtrekker! much appreciated!

I'm new here, but I just wanted to say thanks. I have been looking for the Tsunami version of Marnie for quite some time. Thank you for sharing!

I'm new here, but I just wanted to say thanks. I have been looking for the Tsunami version of Marnie for quite some time. Thank you for sharing!

Glad for being able to help you, Nashwolverine! I always enjoyed the Tsnunami bootleg. For a bootleg, it has a fantastic sound and is the best representation of the original soundtrack so far.

Possible re-up with log+cue ?
Thanks in advance.

Possible re-up with log+cue ?
Thanks in advance.

No, only without log+cue...

soundtrekker do you have this Marnie bootleg available ? Would appreciate the link

Please send Marnie (bootleg) Your mailbox is full Appreciate the scans also if you can do both